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Switching gears here. The anti-ice jerks said that ICE detained a child. Well the father they were looking for got out of the car and ran. The child was left in the car. ICE brought the 5 year old child to the house he lives at and no-one would open the door and take the child. So ICE took him to McDonalds to feed him and keep him warm. CNN and the other A-hole (so called) news outlets all got on board to dramatize the holding of this 5 year old that the family wouldnt take in to the house.

There used to be signs in the coal mines in a couple different languages. Other than that and most immigrants had their own churches, the had to learn the ways of America. Wasn't the handouts either like now.

Perfect davehummell..... my grand parents were from Italy. They spoke Italian at home and at social gatherings with family and frinds who were also immagrants, but in public they spoke English. I dont recall any signage requiring/suggesting optional languages to be spoken

My one Grandmother and Grandfather came over from Italy and he worked in the mines she was a house wife I never saw any Italian speaking signs up around Pittston if I wanted to talk to gram I had to carry on in Italian everyone spoke Italian in the house but always American off the property no special stuff was expected from them like what is going on today and I bet my Grandfather had a tough time working in the mines not like todays piss poor excuse of humanity today

39-K mile's Scania powered 5-2 speed ,,,,,

Maybe it didn't get a lot of noteriety, but it sold in huge numbers. I believe it was the most popular class 8 engine for most of the 90's. As for Cat, all I can say is that yellow paint sure was expensive...

In the early days, they made lots more 11.1 versions which likely led to the impression that they weren't an O/O engine. If they had led with the 12.7 putting ad money into that rather than chasing the fleet market as much, it might have been an even better launch.

Another rumor about the series 60, is that Roger Penske's racing division was instrumental in perfecting the electronic injectors system for the 4 cycle Detroits.

Just gets better🙄

I will start a new Topic soon.

Sounds great.My nieces and nephews are always on to us to visit...yeah post that link.Love to see the pics.. Paul

I recently bought an 8.2 John Deere engine.The story of it was it was one of three installed in an industrial plant to run a fire system.They were run one hour a week for the last 10 years to ensure they were always available.It has 550 hours on the hourmeter.During an insurance test this engine was deamed to have exhaust gases in the coolant.The insurance company insisted it was replaced not repaired.Through a buddy I bought the engine for scrap value,about 250 US dollors.It came on a stand with comtrol panel rad and batterys.Iv run it for hours and it never overheated in fact it starts first time and runs beautifully.However 8.2 JDs are almost non existant in Ireland and my plan to sell it and make a few bucks to put into the Cruiseliner build has not worked out...Yet!!! Paul

Yes MarkT. I only owned 1 ,, 99 Century class condo. Basic as they come. Nothing against Cat or Cummins, But I am drawn to a 12.7. Had a few 14.0 in a fleet i took care of, just rather have the 12.7...

The door SHOULD hit him in the A$$ on the way out!!!!!

Paul, Start saving your Pennys!!!! I spent 2 weeks in 2015 on the ATHS Down Under Tour.. Would go back in a heartbeat!!! Rent a car, eat in pubs, and stay in normal motels and do my own tour at my own speed. I have 4 Flicker Albums of pictures that I can post the link to if anybody is interested. Also a travel agent with antique truck connections.

12.7 never got the credit it deserved back in their day. Drivers were much more fond of the right foot response of the big Cats .

No Cancer, just sugar and blood pressure.. Now it would take popcycle sticks and duct tape!!!!

Yeah Id love to visit the land down under.Iv 9 neices and nephews living and working there.Maybe when I retire I'll get to go...Love to see a Roadtrain for real..... Paul

It would be my choice if I were replacing one of my mechanical with an electronic. I did look into it at one point. Worked on quite a few, but mostly minor issues. some in trucks others in buses.