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ENDT-673C LuberFiner Gasket
doubleclutchinweasel replied to doubleclutchinweasel's topic in Engine and Transmission
So, from my research so far, it LOOKS like you remove the existing oil pressure relief valve assembly, and bolt on the different one with the tall "neck" on it. Then, the filter adapter bolts to the top of that "neck". After that, it's just a matter of connecting things. So, looks like it would be very important to have the correct pressure relief assembly, to line up with the correct number of holes in the block. Right gasket would probably help, too. Looking at my pictures, I can see where part of the lines go. But, it's raining outside right now, and I don't want to get wet looking around. I assume the line coming off the oil cooler is the supply to the filter. The other large line off the filter goes into the pressure regulator. The small center line off the filter appears to be the bypass return line, and goes into the block (or pan), and drains straight into the pan. i think I can see the turbo feed line coming off the RH side of the regulator block. And, the oil pressure gage line appears to be right next to it. There is another larger line, on the LH side of the pressure regulator block. In the pictures, I can't see exactly where that line goes. I think it would be inportant to know, however, since that is one of the lines which appears to go bye-bye when you put the different regulator body on there. I'll doctor those pictures, and see if anybody can give me more info.- 44 replies
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doubleclutchinweasel replied to doubleclutchinweasel's topic in Engine and Transmission
Larry, I think I found your project all over the web! Looks like you searched every diesel form out there. Sounds familiar. Yeah, mine has a block heater in that area, as well. It just might have to go. Sounds like, from your description, you eliminated the bypass portion of the original filter? That is, I believe, what the smaller, center line is for. Right? Filtered bypass oil that is dumped back into the pan? Here are a few pictures of the side of my engine, just to see if it helps anybody's memory...- 44 replies
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doubleclutchinweasel replied to doubleclutchinweasel's topic in Engine and Transmission
I sent Global a message. Will contact State Line, also. Thanks, all.- 44 replies
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doubleclutchinweasel replied to doubleclutchinweasel's topic in Engine and Transmission
Oh! Then that PM won't do much good, will it?!- 44 replies
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doubleclutchinweasel replied to doubleclutchinweasel's topic in Engine and Transmission
I sent a PM to counterman6, who I believe is that same guy. Told him what I was looking at. I guess we'll see. If there is a "kit", and all I need to do is have hoses made, or something like that, I might be able to convince myself to do it. Otherwise...- 44 replies
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doubleclutchinweasel replied to doubleclutchinweasel's topic in Engine and Transmission
Counterman6? At gloaltrucktraders?- 44 replies
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doubleclutchinweasel replied to doubleclutchinweasel's topic in Engine and Transmission
Okay. So, what is a 215SB123 oil filter conversion kit? That can't possibly be all there is to it? Can it?- 44 replies
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doubleclutchinweasel replied to doubleclutchinweasel's topic in Engine and Transmission
%^$#$%^^&$#!!! I just checked the oil filter canister. I appears that, after a time, the oil is draining out of the filter canister. Can't tell if it is some of the oil or all of the oil. This surprises me, because the oil pressure is not terribly slow to build up on this engine. So, "full" on the dipstick is NOT full, apparently. I guess you would have to check the oil level immediately after shutdown, while there was still oil in the filter, to see if the crankcase was actually full. And, when the filter drained, it would be way over-full. I have tried checking it at idle, but the dipstick has oil all over it then. I doubt it would be possible to get parts for these old canisters (check valves, springs, etc...). I'm sure that's what it needs; the check valves rebuilt. So, I may have to try to convert it over to spin-on filters, after all. Really did not want to do that. This may be the one that puts me over the top. I am about tired of doing this.- 44 replies
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doubleclutchinweasel replied to doubleclutchinweasel's topic in Engine and Transmission
Curiosity has set in! Didn't you actually convert yours over to spin-ons? After doing a lot of reading, and being very confused, it sounds like the "3-line" units (full-flow and bypass) were a bit easier to convert to spin-on than the ones which were only bypass or only full flow. Can you shed any light???- 44 replies
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doubleclutchinweasel replied to doubleclutchinweasel's topic in Engine and Transmission
WGB, huh? Cool! Never knew that. All those numbers match up with the ones I have. So that's good. This is a hobby truck, and will likely stay with the factory filter.- 44 replies
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doubleclutchinweasel replied to doubleclutchinweasel's topic in Engine and Transmission
Yeah. That's me, too. The local guy said he could get me one of each tomorrow. Said to use whichever one I need & return the other. Can't beat that. Looking between the gaps, at the shape of the bottom of the canister lip, it looks like it would use a round seal.- 44 replies
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doubleclutchinweasel replied to BOB DINGSDALE's topic in Exterior, Cab, Accessories and Detailing
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ENDT-673C LuberFiner Gasket
doubleclutchinweasel replied to doubleclutchinweasel's topic in Engine and Transmission
Was yours the full-flow/bypass combo, or just a single-purpose?- 44 replies
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So, I was looking at oil filters and such for the old Dog. The ENDT-673C has the LuberFiner canister (combination full-flow & bypass) on it. Filter element number 236GB311A, I do believe. At least that's one of the numbers on the build sheet. That number crosses over to several still-available filters (Wix, Baldwin, etc...). So, no problem there. And, the dimensions & pictures I find are very familiar to me. I have handled this type before, but it has been YEARS ago. But, I have found 2 different housing gaskets (see pictures), and wonder if anybody can shed any light on it, without me having to take mine apart first. Might be a 121SB45. The first gasket I have found, which might work in there, appears to be an O-ring...round cross-section. This is what Wix calls for for their element. The other gasket I have found is a "beveled" cross-section. Personally, I would have called this a "diamond" cross-section. Both these numbers come up on one cross-reference or another. Some of these cross-references would tend to suggest interchangeability between the 2 parts. But, when you look at the dimensions, the "diamond" one is quite a bit thicker. Without taking the canister apart, I wonder if there is any way to tell what the gasket is supposed to look like. I just can't remember what the seal looked like all those years ago. And, maybe there are 2 different types of canisters. I just don't know. I suppose the "safe" way would be to have one of each on hand, and use whichever one looks right. But, that's guesswork; I hate guesswork!
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doubleclutchinweasel replied to doubleclutchinweasel's topic in Driveline and Suspension
It's a hobby truck. Gets maybe 1,000 miles a year.I bought 16 Dayton rims with Bandag recaps on them for $25 each. I'll be glad to swap it over to Budds, as soon as somebody wants to donate the hubs, drums, & wheels! Until then, y'all will just have to tolerate my Daytons on Mack "spiders"! -
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doubleclutchinweasel replied to doubleclutchinweasel's topic in Driveline and Suspension
Pulled it off. The band was good. Replaced the outer, suspect tire with another one. Went together easy. Runout good on both inner & outer. Drove it. That particular shimmy & shake is gone. So, that funny-looking tire apparently was the culprit. Therefore, no, a set of Budds wouldn't have helped in the slightest! -
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doubleclutchinweasel replied to eveready's topic in Engine and Transmission
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Diesel Fuel Lubricity Study
doubleclutchinweasel replied to doubleclutchinweasel's topic in BMT Wiki Support Topics
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Diesel Fuel Lubricity Study
doubleclutchinweasel replied to doubleclutchinweasel's topic in BMT Wiki Support Topics
Yeah, I think the biggest issue is in higher-fuel-pressure engines made between 2000 and 2008. The reduction in sulphur in 2008 reduced the lubricity of the fuel, which could hurt those pumps. I do have to disagree on 1 little issue, however. According to this study, SOME of the additives actually REDUCE the lubricity. That means they INCREASE the wear on the pump. So, in those particular cases, NOTHING is better then SOMETHING...at least when discussing lubricity. To be honest, I had actually used the 2-cycle oil additive before, because the study showed it actually did help a little! But, you know that stuff probably didn't clean anything! And, remember, this article is solely discussing the LUBRICTY benefits of various additives. Even some of the additives which made no difference in lubricity probably helped cetane rating, cleaned injector nozzles, and stuff like that. It's always good to hear from you, Farmer! -
Front Axle Parts Breakdown This was sent to me by Mack as a breakdown of my particular FA-535 front axle. But, the information may be of some help to someone else. Author doubleclutchinweasel Category Antique & Classic Mack Info Submitted 08/08/2014 11:44 AM Updated 08/08/2014 11:45 AM
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This was sent to me by Mack as a breakdown of my particular FA-535 front axle. But, the information may be of some help to someone else.
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This is not my work. I take no credit for it. Any and all credit for this information goes to the organizations and individuals listed at the end of the article. This verbiage is presented, without comment or endorsement, for informational purposes only. The following link will take you to the www.dieselplace.com website, where the information came from. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/76-speciality-forums/64-maintenance-fluids/177728-lubricity-additive-study-results.html The following are the preliminary results of a research study on diesel fuel Lubricity Additives. There is likely to be further commentary and explanation added at a future time. PURPOSE: The purpose of this research was to determine the ability of multiple diesel fuel additives to replace the vital lubricity component in ULSD (Ultra Low Sulfer Diesel) fuel. HISTORY: ULSD fuel is the fuel currently mandated for use in all on road diesel engines. This fuel burns cleaner and is less polluting than it’s predecessor, called Low Sulfer Diesel Fuel. Low sulfer fuel contained less than 500 ppm of sulfer. ULSD contains 15 ppm or less. As diesel fuel is further refined to remove the polluting sulfer, it is inadvertently stripped of its lubricating properties. This vital lubrication is a necessary component of the diesel fuel as it prevents wear in the fuel delivery system. Specifically, it lubricates pumps, high pressure pumps and injectors. Traditional Low sulfer diesel fuel typically contained enough lubricating ability to suffice the needs of these vital components. ULSD fuel, on the other hand, is considered to be very “dry” and incapable of lubricating vital fuel delivery components. As a result, these components are at risk of premature and even catastrophic failure when ULSD fuel is introduced to the system. As a result, all oil companies producing ULSD fuel must replace the lost lubricity with additives. All ULSD fuel purchased at retail fuel stations SHOULD be adequately treated with additives to replace this lost lubricity. The potential result of using inadequately treated fuel, as indicated above, can be catastrophic. There have been many documented cases of randomly tested samples of diesel fuel. These tests prove that often times the fuel we purchase is not adequately treated and may therefore contribute to accelerated wear of our fuel delivery systems. For this reason it may be prudent to use an after market diesel fuel additive to ENSURE adequate lubrication of the fuel delivery system. Additionally, many additives can offer added benefits such as cetane improver, and water separators or emulsifiers. CONTENT: In this study we will test multiple diesel fuel additives designed to replace lost lubricity. The primary component of this study is a side-by-side laboratory analysis of each additive’s ability to replace this vital lubricity. Additionally, claims of improving cetane, water separation or emulsification, bio-diesel compatibility and alcohol content will be noted. These notes were derived from information that was readily available to consumers (via the label and internet information) and none of this information has been evaluated for validity and/or performance. Cetane information has only been noted if the word “cetane” was used in the advertising information. The words “improves power” has not been translated to mean “improves cetane” in this evaluation. Information on alcohol content is provided by indicating “contains no alcohol”. Omission of the words “contains no alcohol” does not imply that it does contain alcohol. This information was simply missing in the information available to a consumer. However, the possibility of a form of alcohol in these products is possible. Additionally, information on dosages and cost per tankful are included for comparison purposes. How Diesel Fuel Is Evaluated For Lubricating Ability: Diesel fuel and other fluids are tested for lubricating ability using a device called a “High Frequency Reciprocating Rig” or HFRR. The HFRR is currently the Internationally accepted, standardized method to evaluate fluids for lubricating ability. It uses a ball bearing that reciprocates or moves back and forth on a metal surface at a very high frequency for a duration of 90 minutes. The machine does this while the ball bearing and metal surface are immersed in the test fluid (in this case, treated diesel fuel). At the end of the test the ball bearing is examined under a microscope and the “wear scar” on the ball bearing is measured in microns. The larger the wear scar, the poorer the lubricating ability of the fluid. Southwest Research runs every sample twice and averages the size of the wear scar. The U.S. standard for diesel fuel says a commercially available diesel fuel should produce a wear scar of no greater than 520 microns. The Engine Manufacturers Association had requested a standard of a wear scar no greater than 460 microns, typical of the pre-ULSD fuels. Most experts agree that a 520 micron standard is adequate, but also that the lower the wear scar the better. METHOD: An independent research firm in Texas was hired to do the laboratory work. The cost of the research was paid for voluntarily by the participating additive manufacturers. Declining to participate and pay for the research were the following companies: Amsoil and Power Service. Because these are popular products it was determined that they needed to be included in the study. These products were tested using funds collected by diesel enthusiasts at “dieselplace.com”. Additionally, unconventional additives such as 2-cycle oil and used motor oil were tested for their abilities to aid in diesel fuel lubricity. These were also paid for by members of “dieselplace.com”. The study was conducted in the following manner: -The Research firm obtained a quantity of “untreated” ULSD fuel from a supplier. This fuel was basic ULSD fuel intended for use in diesel engines. However, this sample was acquired PRIOR to any attempt to additize the fuel for the purpose of replacing lost lubricity. In other words, it was a “worst case scenario, very dry diesel fuel” that would likely cause damage to any fuel delivery system. This fuel was tested using the HFRR at the Southwest Research Laboratory. This fuel was determined to have a very high HFRR score of 636 microns, typical of an untreated ULSD fuel. It was determined that this batch of fuel would be utilized as the baseline fuel for testing all of the additives. The baseline fuel HFRR score of 636 would be used as the control sample. All additives tested would be evaluated on their ability to replace lost lubricity to the fuel by comparing their scores to the control sample. Any score under 636 shows improvement to the fuels ability to lubricate the fuel delivery system of a diesel engine. BLIND STUDY: In order to ensure a completely unbiased approach to the study, the following steps were taken: Each additive tested was obtained independently via internet or over the counter purchases. The only exceptions were Opti-Lube XPD and the bio-diesel sample. The reason for this is because Opti-Lube XPD additive was considered “experimental” at the time of test enrollment and was not yet on the market. It was sent directly from Opti-Lube company. The bio-diesel sample was sponsored by Renewable Energy Group. One of their suppliers, E.H. Wolf and Sons in Slinger, Wisconsin supplied us with a sample of 100% soybean based bio-diesel. This sample was used to blend with the baseline fuel to create a 2% bio-diesel for testing. Each additive was bottled separately in identical glass containers. The bottles were labeled only with a number. This number corresponded to the additive contained in the bottle. The order of numbering was done randomly by drawing names out of a hat. Only Spicer Research held the key to the additives in each bottle. The additive samples were then sent in a box to An independent research firm. The only information given them was the ratio of fuel to be added to each additive sample. For example, bottle “A” needs to be mixed at a ratio of “480-1”. The ratio used for each additive was the “prescribed dosage” found on the bottle label for that product. Used motor oil and 2-cycle oil were tested at a rationally chosen ratio of 200:1. The Research Laboratory mixed the proper ratio of each “bottled fluid” into a separate container containing the baseline fuel. The data, therefore, is meaningful because every additive is tested in the same way using the same fuel. A side-by-side comparison of the effectiveness of each additive is now obtainable. THE RESULTS: These results are listed in the order of performance in the HFRR test. The baseline fuel used in every test started at an HFRR score of 636. The score shown is the tested HFRR score of the baseline fuel/additive blend. Also included is the wear scar improvement provided by the additive as well as other claimed benefits of the additive. Each additive is also categorized as a Multi-purpose additive, Multi-purpose + anti-gel, Lubricity only, non-conventional, or as an additive capable of treating both gasoline and diesel fuel. As a convenience to the reader there is also information on price per treated tank of diesel fuel (using a 26 gallon tank), and dosage per 26 gallon tank provided as “ounces of additive per 26 gallon tank”. In Order Of Performance: 1) 2% REG SoyPower biodiesel HFRR 221, 415 micron improvement. 50:1 ratio of baseline fuel to 100% biodiesel 66.56 oz. of 100% biodiesel per 26 gallons of diesel fuel Price: market value 2)Opti-Lube XPD Multi-purpose + anti-gel cetane improver, demulsifier HFRR 317, 319 micron improvement. 256:1 ratio 13 oz/tank $4.35/tank 3)FPPF RV, Bus, SUV Diesel/Gas fuel treatment Gas and Diesel cetane improver, emulsifier HFRR 439, 197 micron improvement 640:1 ratio 5.2 oz/tank $2.60/tank 4)Opti-Lube Summer Blend Multi-purpose demulsifier HFRR 447, 189 micron improvement 3000:1 ratio 1.11 oz/tank $0.68/tank 5)Opti-Lube Winter Blend Muti-purpose + anti-gel cetane improver HFRR 461, 175 micron improvement 512:1 ratio 6.5 oz/tank $3.65/tank 6)Schaeffer Diesel Treat 2000 Multi-purpose + anti-gel cetane improver, emulsifier, bio-diesel compatible HFRR 470, 166 micron improvement 1000:1 ratio 3.32 oz/tank $1.87/tank 7)Super Tech Outboard 2-cycle TC-W3 engine oil Unconventional (Not ULSD compliant, may damage 2007 or newer systems) HFRR 474, 162 micron improvement 200:1 ratio 16.64 oz/tank $1.09/tank 8)Stanadyne Lubricity Formula Lubricity Only demulsifier, 5% bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free HFRR 479, 157 micron improvement 1000:1 ratio 3.32 oz/tank $1.00/tank 9)Amsoil Diesel Concentrate Multi-purpose demulsifier, bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free HFRR 488, 148 micron improvement 640:1 ratio 5.2 oz/tank $2.16/tank 10)Power Service Diesel Kleen + Cetane Boost Multi-purpose Cetane improver, bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free HFRR 575, 61 micron improvement 400:1 ratio 8.32 oz/tank $1.58/tank 11)Howe’s Meaner Power Kleaner Multi-purpose Alcohol free HFRR 586, 50 micron improvement 1000:1 ratio 3.32 oz/tank $1.36/tank 12)Stanadyne Performance Formula Multi-purpose + anti-gel cetane improver, demulsifier, 5% bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free HFRR 603, 33 micron improvement 480:1 ratio 6.9 oz/tank $4.35/tank 13)Used Motor Oil, Shell Rotella T 15w40, 5,000 miles used. Unconventional (Not ULSD compliant, may damage systems) HFRR 634, 2 micron improvement 200:1 ratio 16.64 oz/tank price: market value 14)Lucas Upper Cylinder Lubricant Gas or diesel HFRR 641, 5 microns worse than baseline (statistically insignificant change) 427:1 ratio 7.8 oz/tank $2.65/tank 15)B1000 Diesel Fuel Conditioner by Milligan Biotech Multi-purpose, canola oil based additive HFRR 644, 8 microns worse than baseline (statistically insignificant change) 1000:1 ratio 3.32 oz/tank $2.67/tank 16)FPPF Lubricity Plus Fuel Power Multi-purpose + anti-gel Emulsifier, alcohol free HFRR 675, 39 microns worse than baseline fuel 1000:1 ratio 3.32 oz/tank $1.12/tank 17)Marvel Mystery Oil Gas, oil and Diesel fuel additive (NOT ULSD compliant, may damage 2007 and newer systems) HFRR 678, 42 microns worse than baseline fuel. 320:1 ratio 10.4 oz/tank $3.22/tank 18)ValvTect Diesel Guard Heavy Duty/Marine Diesel Fuel Additive Multi-purpose Cetane improver, emulsifier, alcohol free HFRR 696, 60 microns worse than baseline fuel 1000:1 ratio 3.32 oz/tank $2.38/tank 19)Primrose Power Blend 2003 Multi-purpose Cetane boost, bio-diesel compatible, emulsifier HFRR 711, 75 microns worse than baseline 1066:1 ratio 3.12 oz/tank $1.39/tank CONCLUSIONS: Products 1 through 4 were able to improve the unadditized fuel to an HFRR score of 460 or better. This meets the most strict requirements requested by the Engine Manufacturers Association. Products 1 through 9 were able to improve the unadditized fuel to an HFRR score of 520 or better, meeting the U.S. diesel fuel requirements for maximum wear scar in a commercially available diesel fuel. Products 16 through 19 were found to cause the fuel/additive blend to perform worse than the baseline fuel. The cause for this is speculative. This is not unprecedented in HFRR testing and can be caused by alcohol or other components in the additives. Further investigation into the possibilities behind these poor results will investigated. Any additive testing within +/- 20 microns of the baseline fuel could be considered to have no significant change. The repeatability of this test allows for a +/- 20 micron variability to be considered insignificant. CREDITS: This study would not have been possible without the participation of all companies involved and dieselplace.com. A special Thank You to all of the dieselplace.com members who generously donated toward this study and waited longer than they should have for the results. You folks are the best. Arlen Spicer, organizer.
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Diesel Fuel Lubricity Study This is not my work. I take no credit for it. Any and all credit for this information goes to the organizations and individuals listed at the end of the article. This verbiage is presented, without comment or endorsement, for informational purposes only. The following link will take you to the www.dieselplace.com website, where the information came from. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/76-speciality-forums/64-maintenance-fluids/177728-lubricity-additive-study-results.html The following ar Author doubleclutchinweasel Category Antique & Classic Mack Info Submitted 08/08/2014 11:30 AM Updated 08/08/2014 11:37 AM
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R-Model Cab Parts Breakdown Attached is a .pdf file showing the breakdown of an old R-model cab. Author doubleclutchinweasel Category Antique & Classic Mack Info Submitted 08/08/2014 11:20 AM Updated 08/08/2014 11:26 AM
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Attached is a .pdf file showing the breakdown of an old R-model cab.
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