Red Horse

And I was just about to post..."and it looks like another clean Ford next to it as well as a "square Chevy" in front of that"😎👌

Looks like a very clean Ford in front of it😎

Hah..Justification? I think ego is one thing-if the other guy has it, I'm going to top that😎 But I think Hippy raises a good point. I think I see some of these guys doing what I would see as routine crane jobs at construction sites. Here in Mass equipment operators have to have a Hoisting Engineer License. And they are issued for various classes of equipment. I have a 2A that restricts me to loaders, loader back hoes, and excavators. cranes? that is another story. Blackdog..does Conn have a similar license now for construction equipment?

Wow! In this day and age do they have a rotator? How many of the "old" trucks are still active? To you guys who might follow this, as a kid, growing up in that part of Conn, my like minded pals and I would frequently drive to Wallingford to check out the Plunske fleet which was always parked in front of the building-always immaculate..this was like in the early 60's! Yes I am an old fart! Nice to see a business survive and keep their standards!

Nice-Still in collection? 220?

Opps..I ment to say developed between "Ford and GM", not Ford and Allison

Rich, I think they were too big for PO

I would put this in the same "Dumb Ass" moves list along with Ford ignoring the class 6/7 market. If it was a good product and they were no longer pouring significant costs into it, I would almost think it could survive on Amazon business alone recognizing their sunk costs must be significant.

Not really...the Ford Navistar "divorce" was over real issues...were the failure issues due to Fords actions or Navistars. This "divorce" is over what I consider the fraudulent claim that GM had an Allison transmission in their trucks when it fact it had NOTHING to do with Allison. It in reality was a transmissioin designed/ developed in a JV between Ford and Allison with certain differences between some models. In fact some components have the same part numbers. I'm so old that I go back to the early days of Allisons in class 8 trucks and I formed the opinion they should have been installed with Velcro fasteners to shorten replacement times😀...Not the case today, If I were buying a class 8 and did not want an /eaton manual, I would chose an Allison. I have to believe GM paid Allison a nice royalty fee to use their name. I can't tell you how many times I have heard some guy explaining his truck was better than a Ford Super because..."it has an Allison-just like the big trucks"! Interesting that FLT-forgot his name- in his somber announcement made no mention the transmission in fact was NOT an Allison but rather did a lot of tap dancing around the issue and never once mentioned the transmissions roots!

For sure..We had a training slideshow called "Mass in Motion". Showed a liquid load when tank was say half empty. Truck at rest, and the liquid load would be a level line from side to ride. Then say you went into a right hand turn. That "level line" would creep up on the left hand side of the tank, shifting the center of gravity closer to the left. And the faster and tighter the turn, the worse it became and the end result would often be a rollover. You wouldn't think you had to explain that to a driver. And the same would apply if you had a peddle load and the discharge manifold allowed you to open multiple compartments. Instead of draining one completely and taking a lesser amount out of the other compartment to minimize "slop", you had two compartments adding to the risk. And sad fact, it applies to freight that is not secured in a box...." the load shifted" said the dumb ass driver to the news camera!🤔

Talk about high center of gravity? If that tank was half empty can you imagine going into a turn too fast?? Then again it probably couldn't "go to fast"

Well I may have an interesting story..Local guy, very successfull small excavator. Started buying Petes. Last one a triaxle. then I go by the yard the otherday and the Pete-like a year old now is not there and looks like a new Granite is there.????? But fact remains..seems like all the old Mack construction fleets now have new Paccars🤔

Roger Sherman Riggers! I remember being at my grandparents house on Rt 5 sitting on steps "truck watching"- a good sighting was a chain drive Roger Sherman go by. Another one was a "straddle carrier" going by with a full load of lumber. Talk about chain drive noise. In my memory the driver and engine/drive train was about 8 feet or more in the air so the chains to the driving axle must have been 6 ft or more- 12ft+ total.

How true. Wish I understood the economics that makes this work for the Europeans????

Did Blakeslee own NH Trap Rock? That is a Euc? W.I Clark was Euc dealer I think