Red Horse

Nice! Luv that short bed!

I don't believe I ever saw a Texaco corporate truck with the logo on the door- I believe small letter "Texaco" was about it and either the corp address or the division/region address. What is the history of that GMC ?

AH-Industrial America. I worked in Buffalo in mid-late 60's Beth Steel had a big plant in Lackawanna and first time I went in there I couldn't believe the size of the place-and the plant trucks-mostly GMC gas jobs-trucks that were relatively new but did not have a piece of straight sheet metal on them! Everything hammered. We had a refinery on Elk Street and the river next to us would periodically catch fire.Allied chemical had a big facility near us and next to us was a huge outdoor sulfur pile. Six months after I was transferred out of there I would wash my Mustang and when I rang the chamois out, the water would be yellow! I'm sure all of those facilities are now long gone.

Maybe this should be a new thread entitled- "Defection to the Other Side." One of three new JD's Central Mass S & G just put into service in their Lancaster MA pit loading my B. Two 744's and an 844 replacing 3 Cats. Full maintenance program with Schmidt Equipment. Positive comments from operators. Big thing is these things are 2013's and I think avoid the next level of environmental BS. Time will tell-at least they are not Doosans!

Actually, in reading the "pitch" for each candidate, it is a tough call without knowing anyone. In any event, as I'm also an ATHS member, this process is what IMO puts ATCA ahead of ATHS. You don't elect people into ATHS positions. You spend the postage to "approve" a slate. ATHS is overhead, paid staff and a lot of cost that will never benefit me. Do I plan on visiting the office? the "library"? The "Motor Cargo" sign?? No. ATHS is a classic case of an organization growing to justify the paid staff. By the way. as for the library. between my own material, the stuff all my pals have accumulated, and the Mack Museum, what more do I need. Oh-and the internet and enthusiast sites like this are a great thing. Sorry ATHS, but that is how I see it. "Work expands with time allocated" Favortite expression of an old boss of mine and I think for sure that has driven the "growth" of ATHS. Perhsps we will see some changes in the future with the recent change in leadership. As I will pay my new renewal notice I hope so,

Friend of mine has two new pairs of early Oshkosh P series doors. He bought a P series at govt auction (Air Guard or Nat Guard unit-truck ws mint!) and in their desire to "clean shop" included the four doors with the truck. If interested contact info is KJLtruck@aol.com (this guy was a feature on "Pickers) about a year ago-got the picture?

EJ-did a google earth-looks like no on site screening/washing-just loading out. By the way-mother nature always reclaims the land- in the mid 60's, there weren't many trees standing north of the current Keagan operation. And I was hauling out of there when they were building the grade up for I- 91. The big Cat pans would come rolling down headed toward you and you payed attention before you crossed!

Ah memories- had an uncle in North Haven Conn. Bought a Conn DOT Brockway-believe it was a Continental, straight 5 speed, very heavy Garwood body probably 8 yd. Disc wheels-probably 11:00 20 or 22's . Hauled for Stillman Rice Sand & Gravel who had a pit off Rt. 5. I-91 cut through the access road when it was built but new access road added off Broadway. pit still exists today run by Keagan but I think it is more of a screening plant then an active "mining" site. Was noted for its red mason sand. Liked nothing better than to go for a ride with him. This old boy grew up working for the town hiway so for sure Brockways were in his blood. Amazing what you could do with a 5 speed back then!

DM 600 working at Motiva???

Wow-another all Mack fleet going to the dark side?

Speaking of Cascadia, same thought-grill is FUGLY IMO. I know cooling has a new priority but the grill is in excess. Ahh-remember the days when a grill consisted of a set of shutters! Now THAT was functional!

1963 Seaburg Juke Box!

Should have added-popped the hood on a pals new 250 PStroke. Can't imagine how you do ANY work on that thing

What a clever idea- a simple truck that works!!! AND- a clutch pedal!

Hmnnn-just think of the nice ice/snow dam this will create? Maybe???

Bigger question in my mind, would the 33,000 lb class 7 max be similarly exempted by that weight penalty to preserve the 12 % FET exemption??? You would think so as the entire purpose of the legislation is to increase nat gas as a fuel source. IMO, legislation should do both- exempt the buyer from the FET, as well as give him the payload advantage.

10-4-as always I'll have to ask my kids

Bigdog- I have "Maps", MapQuest, and WAZE on my IPhone (4) do any nof those apps give you the speed check feature???

Matt, More Plunske pix please-take me back to my youth-trips up Rt 5 to see the Fords all lined up!

So what is so "new" about an "offset cab" To those of you from Central Mass, from the "Gargolinski Collection". This was an??LJWS???

For sure on the Binders-and also the GMC J??? later called Brigadier. What was OAL limit-back then? 55'??

Nice dozers-friend of mine has a 550-makes a hack like me look good

U came about for one reason-give Mack a 90" BBC to compete with 9000 Whites, 358/359 Brockways and later big time fleet competition in 1970 from the LN Louisville. Moving cab to side was good alternative to raising cab up in the air.

And in addition to old B-81, I'm told owner/ driver is 84 yrs young!

Well the smartest thing they did was the Ford buy out-or should I say "steal" at 300 million! At the time,Jim Hebe, then the big dog at Fliner claimed Ford as the vocational leader. That move took a typically 20%+ volume player out of the market. And they haven't looked back. come to think of it, the SD 114 even LOOKS like an old school Louisville-not the HN-80 replacement that went on as "Sterling". And Matt-all the big new Mass DOT trucks are SD 114's. Locals? I would guess its a battle between Fliner and Navistar. Unless you are talking small "clean up" trucks-in that case I would say F-550 rules.