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Hey guys, thanks again

Paul, Larry, Thanks for the responses. Will look at both options. Bob

Guys, I want to convert my B to an alternator and get rid of the series parallel switch. I'm swapping cabs so all of the current wiring is junk. I assume if I buy a harness from say Top-O Hill or any other supplier, I will be getting a lot of stuff I don't need given the conversion to an alternator. Any thoughts? I have to believe many of you have "been there-done that"!

Guys, thank you all for your responses. Lizardskin looks pretty good, but as with so many of these things, a little creativity goesa long way. For example, I'm thinking Lizardskin on everything then perhaps plain syrofoam sheet on the cab back panel and even above in the headliner? Or if you are not talking about moving parts (doors) even expanding foam? As log as you don't get the kind that has too high an expansion rate

Guys, we are stripping my B cab before it goes to the soda blaster. As for the formed inplace insulation on the cab firewall (interior) anyone have any ideas as to what you replace that with? I'm sure no has any of that in inventory. Appreciate any suggestions.

Guys, Anyone out there bought any 11 x 24's lately? If so what brand and how much.?

Rod, thx for the tip!

Paul, Matt Pafhl, from Conn. was at the Macungie show in June and was selling off some inventory. Check out his webb site for contact info as he might have some more or have a line on reasonable replacement prices. Good thought on checking Mack dealers- its easy to get into the mindset of automatically thinking they WON't have inventory. Bob

Paul, Thx for response. Actually I should have mentioned the rubber gaskets. I did pick up the wing window rubber at a recent show at a very fair price. the only place I have seen windshield and rear window rubber is Watts, so if anyone has another source I would like to hear about it.. Although I would imagine that some of the door track material can be off the shelf bulk material that can be cut to length??? Bob

Guys, Anyone have any recent experience with getting new cab glass cut? Only good piece of glass I have is the back window. So I'm talking windshields, vent windows and door glass. Appreciate any cost info anyone might have.

If it had a 534 it was a 900, not an 800. I know you said the sheet metal was gone, but for what its worth, if it had a short cab-90 BBC- it would be an LN-900. If it had a long cab-106" BBC, it would be an L 900

Ok guys- For the front springs $950 pr. (these are 14 leaf) rears $1210 pr rear Helpers 495 pr Helper brkts 179 total $2834 Keep in mind this is a 35,000 LB rear with torque rods each side and a center torque rd going to the cross member. But like the Fram guy said.."pay me now or pay me later".

O'Dog, If you get lucky, you can find some nice ones. the B-61S I bought for the Cab (and as it turns out, engine and quadbox) Has a great looking set of springs- no rust between leaves. Of course when I go to sell it everyone says.."44 rears, dime a dozen!'

Freighttrain- A timely post! I'm debating if I should replace the springs on my 60 B-68X. this thing has a 35,000 lb. Rad 111 rear and I'm going to put a 10' dump on it and use it. Springs for this puppy with helpers will cost me $1550 for the rear and about 700 for the fronts. Your pictures convinced me. In particular as I intend to put a load on it every now and then.

Didn't think my first post went through??

Guys, Thanks for your input. The motor is sitting in a box trailer and I will check it out Monday and confirm the stud sizes. Bob PS You might have seen this B-61s in the classified section of WOT a couple of issues ago. It was the red one in FLA. I was told it was an early 60's but was actually built in Sept. of 65. Hopefully that is good news. Was delivered by Birmingham Mack to a Lawrence Lucas. The original order for the truck was through Prentiss Mack, Lafayette Ind. and the customer was Davis Trucking but somewhere along the line, the order was assigned to Birmingham Mack and their customer.

Guys- thx for all of your input. We pulled the engine and its sitting in a box trailer that I won't get to untill Monday when I can check out the head bolts. I'll Keep you posted. The truck was built in September 1965 so hopefully it has the new style head gasket . By the way, it was sold through Birmingham Ala. branch and original owner was Lawrence Lucas. One of the orders also indicates "Davis Trucking" as the customer and Prentiss Truck Sales, Lafayette Ind. as the dealer but that ticket was written in August and then the unit was assigned to Birmingham Mack in September. History is half the fun of these things. My B-68X was ordered in May 1960 by Albert Welch Inc. a good sized Boston Excavating contractor. They are still in business today and a buddy of mine isa field super for them. He mentioned this to one of the owners (grandson) whose comment was.."yeah- we probably still owe on it"! Bob

Well guys I bought a B-61S for the cab and it looks like the 711 in it is in much better shape then my old 673. No smoke and it sounds great. I have no experience with 711's. I came into the industry in the mid 60's when my company still had 673's and then transitioned to Maxidynes. What should I be looking for and what should I expect? The engine is a 1965 and I'm putting it and the quadbox that came with it, in my B-68X . I will have a 10' dump on it and I intend to use it every now and then to grab a load of stone for my driveway and/or help out at the fairgrounds. The 673 that repowered this old gasser is like I said, a smoker and it is noisy- plus its a Duplex so I think 'm ahead with this swap.

Thx guys

Guys, We have pulled the cab in prep for cleaning up the chassis. All of the rubber bushings are showing their 48 years of age. Any suggestions as to where you get these things? Same with trans (quadbox) isolators.?????

Theak They are both double frames

Well guys, I'm looking for a few opinions. I have a single axle B with 35,000 lb single rear axle. (RAD 111). I bought a tandem B-61 for the cab, but after looking at it, the engine is better then in my single axle plus its a quad box. In addition, even though its a tandem, except of course for the cross members, the frame rails are the same and the cab-axle dimensions are the same. I'm thinking, instead of pulling the engine/trans and the cab from the tandem, I perhaps should pull the big axles/wheels off the single axle and put them under the tandem. Biggest concern is redrilling the frame. As it was a tandem, it has plenty of holes associated with the center cross members. Plus the 35,000 lb rear from the single has torque rod hangars that would also have to be drilled out. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

Guys, Well I did get my parts back. And I think the stuff looks good. One of the side dogs lost a bit of material on the edge and the "Mack" side scripts have a few pits. But the "Mack" that goes above the radiator shell and the dog bas and "the Dog" Look great. I will post some pictures when I get a minute- actually I took a before photo so I will stage the after the same way. Not sure Rod what the procedure was but all in all I'm satisfied. I alkso priced out the same items on Watts Mack and I saved about 225 plus shipping. I have no clue as to the quailty of the items Watts has as I assume its all reproduction but in addition to saving a few bucks I do know what roads my dog went down 40 plus years ago!

Paul, The guy is actually a broker of sorts. He runs a speed shop and provides rechroming as one of his sidelines. the guy he uses is in rhode Island. This guy was referred to me by a guy who has an established powder coating business- not someone who would pass out endorsements casually. I haven't given him the green light but I probably will. Am I paying a bit of a "handling" charge? Probably. but I did say to the guy.."well why don't I just find a plater and cut you out as the middleman?" His answer was that he had purchasing power and a longstanding relationship with this guy. I kind of think the plater would rather not deal with a lot of people coming into his business with small orders. My guy on the other hand collects orders and brings them down to the guy so the plater deals with one guy vs the individual accounts. I know as a matter of fact with my parts he also was bringing down to the guy a set of front leaf springs for a "bucket T", as well as some assorted bumpers and grill parts. I will keep you posted.