Red Horse

JB-My guess is they are clueless. Case in point- received this months edition of Work Truck Magazine and once again, there was a Ford Commercial Truck flyer included. One thing I noticed was for 750 they list a a max GCWR of 50,000 pds. In the old days, (KTP era) you could get an F-700, and F-800 with a GCWR of 60,000 pds. And an F-8000 with a 3208 Cat carried a GCWR of 75,000 lbs. The F-700 would have had a max front axle of 9000 lbs and a rear of 19,000 pds while the F-800 and F-8000 could be built with a 12,000 front and 23,000 rear. Looking at todays 750, you can get that same 12 front and 23 rear. The frames are in essence available in same ratings (SM and RBM), and I'm sure the wheel/tire ratings are the same. As for cabs, while some say the current 750 cab is a "Pick UP" cab, I would bet it is far more comfortable than the old F series cab. Now in the old days, many carrier used F models in their P & D operations-and I'm sure many a day those city P & D tractors went out with a 40-45 box that pushed that 60 or 65,000 lb rating. It was a cost effective alternative to the L/LN series of competitive trucks from GMC, International etc. So why do the new trucks carry a lower GCWR rating? My bet is Ford does not have the confidence in the 6.7 Power Stroke/ Torqueshift combo to support 60 or 65,000 pd. ratings in particular when you are pulling a 13-6 box height with all of that wind resistance. Again a solid case for another engine/trans combo that could provide incremental sales of 750 without a lot of engineering cost. I guess they just don't see Avon Lake utilization as a serious issue.

Oh- forgot-thx for great pix as usual

Only problem with that C model is I believe it has an 8.2 Detroit "Fuel Pincher"-not the best rep. If it was a Cat, it would not have had that "diesel" badge but would have been a 7000 or 8000

I would say a management problem or that is their PM cycle. Then again, could well be they get rid of them while they have good market value-not because they are junk and they like the low annual maintenance cost associated with low mileage vehicles.. I say that is an expensive strategy but I've heard of some companies that believe in that philosophy.

Ok-please elaborate- so the pixs are in my "Photos" on my Mac. I do the usual as directed and then the message comes up.".unable to download"

Competition should be worried!

Sounds to me like Farley has OD'd on Hackett Kool-Aid. Hard to believe that Bill Ford and Big Al went out of their way to hire Farley from Toyota . I think whatever good ideas Farley may have brought from Toyota, he has forgotten their formula for success.

Padula Bros is a large 3 location Deere dealer here in Mass. At there open house today-10% off on parts and spot this-direct info from owner..."79,000 original miles. Bought new by a farmer in Bridgewater Ma and he used it to haul silage". Only thing he did was have it painted!I should have taken pictures of the inside-what you would expect of an owner driven truck with 79,000. 3406, single frame, 46 rears. As usual, I can't get pix to upload-what am I doing wrong guys? iPhone to Mac Book Pro. Only site I have trouble uploading to is Bigmacktrucks!

My My-beautiful pair........the skates of course

Jim- cut the crap-no more jokes -we are done with winter!

Point of info for any club members- No meeting this Saturday- rescheduled for Sat April 14th-unless we get another Nor'easter!!!! Bob

Looking good Rich- where is the flooring????

This is what a lot of us thought was going to be announced at Work Truck Show. Did I see a standard transmission??? Nice size!

Kevin-looks like the Navistar logo on the grill.

Well if its Sunbelt you know there are a lot more out there!

Just did a search on this chief's comments. Can't find anything. If this in fact was said, it would be on the national news it is so outrageous. Nothing.

On second thought this asshole is playing to the galleries. This city is home to Univ. of Texas. It is what you would expect a political hack would come up with to appeal to the liberal community in this university town. But for sure, when I first read this my first thoughts were ..what do the families of those who were killed by this POPS think of this "chief's " statement.

You have got to be kidding. Hopefully the people of Austin have started a campaign to get rid of this stupid shithead,

EJ Beautiful-who built/owns these-great detail

Note the "Super Singles" on this B-81-or were they called " duplex" back then. My first assignment to a field location in 1966- Albany NY and garage had a bunch of these leaning against a wall-an abandoned trial!

Think of the remediation alone to get rid of the asbestos and everything else that is in it, that has been declared hazardous since it was built. Then again, when some of us take pride in supporting one of the last corporate giants that you can relate to in terms of having a personal face, The downside is that someone at the top-like Bill Ford- can support a decision like this that makes no sense-in particular when they are spending a lot of money on a new complex how many miles away? Once again a decision that seems to be based on a desire to keep the "autonomous/electric" crowd separate from the old school.

Well the good news is they at least mentioned 650-750 with some planned improvements. And unrelated to this piece, looks like they are chipping away at Dodges class 4 and 5 numbers. But the new GM class 4 and 5's should make for interesting competition-to say nothing of the rebadged Isuzus being sold by Chevy dealers. Ford needs that small Cargo -with updates-and soon-with an inline diesel.

Well another good example-when GM was offering the 8500 with a tandem axle, you know they had a GVW over 33,000 lbs. Yet they never posted any sales figures for class 8. How does that work? Likewise, Ford offers an F-750 with a 37,000 lb GVW. Class 8 for sure based on the numbers-yet you'll never see a class 8 sale for Ford. (Then again I'VE NEVER SEEN an F-750 advertised in any of the dealer rags with a 37,000 lb tag) I have seen plenty of 8500 GM tandems however.

Rich-bring a skidder too because there is a big tree across the road up! This is why we need a web site.

Any club members out there. The Saturday Meeting is canceled as Bill S's house still has no power. Bob