Red Horse

So when will we see a picture-better yet a video vs a CAD rendition!

EJ- correct on the juice brakes. To get a real appreciation for this truck you should get a look when its on the lowboy and you see the detail underneath. A typical Dave Mauro restoration.

You have to appreciate what Trump said in his cabinet meeting this week. Just what we need-vocational training and expanded apprentice programs. when loons like Bernie spout off about everyone having a .."right to a college education", I say.."In What"? Philosophy? Eastern European Literature? I don't think so.

Thx-good info to go over.

Sorry for your loss but your message is a good one.

Good one-I missed that point. Oh and Fxyfmn-I have to disagree- the mfg sector may be 1/3 rd of our economy, but what was it? You can't pick up one item in five in Home Depot that is made in US. More like one in 8? 10?. Just look at the freight industry of 40 or 50 years ago. The P & D section was a key piece. Why? because "stuff" originated here. Today? Its all coming from China in containers. The "P" in P & D is gone. Its all delivery from the DC after the container gets delivered and stripped. I was in the great Stanley Works New Britain Conn facility a couple of years ago. The only thing they make there now is steel tapes. Everything else? Gone.

and don't forget JB Hunt!

By the way-KW looks good too. Friend of mine recently bought a new one, 26,000 plate ramp truck. 90 grand complete-KW dealer in Fla-unbelievable price-not too much more than a a Hino 238 or an F-650 Power Stroke.

Rich-what show is that? Looks good with the A-car!

Amen-where are the results-went to HDT digital-nothing there.

Surprised that the HDT article (Mr Koeck) made no mention of double stack rail. Improvements associated with raising bridges to accommodate double stack containers on more rail routes has to be as big a factor as port improvements. While Volvo is making a lot of noise about their new regional tractor, IMO the market for class 8 tractors of the future may not be that great for the "large car high roofs". Granted there will always be a need for "hot shot" or dedicated long haul trucks for certain routes/priorities, too many factors seem to be lining up to make the regional tractor the predominant vehicle. If Ford for example is to ever get back in class 8, it will be IMO in that low cost regional tractor that runs from the intermodal yard to the distribution center or final customer. All of this thanks to the demise of American manufacturing.

Well I guess as DAF sponsors this "show", that is as good a review as Ford could hope for. Reviewer was quick to point out it was 60,000 euros-vs what a Scania S would cost- Kevin-what would that number be?? As for his comments on its looks, IMO ALL of the Euro cab overs were designed by the same guys from Tonka/Mattel/Playskool!

Never heard it was a "quality problem". Design issues yes.

Torpedo 8. Entire squadron was shot down and one man survived and was later rescued. Saw a picture yesterday of a group of Midway survivors at a ceremony. All were in wheelchairs. Truly the greatest generation.

IMO, the 237 Maxidyne , 5 speed highway, 6 speed off road/construction, for sure was the best. 4000/9000 Whites were good fleet trucks as were the L and LN Ford Louisvilles-certainly from a first cost but you just had to make sure you speced the right engine/transmission and rear. Mack took all that out of the equation. Those were the good ol' days.

Rich -Looking good-very good!

Here is a great piece that was in Business Insider. The Silicon Valley explanation is sexier but wrong. Since Tesla's ascent as a wildly volatile investment opportunity began in 2013, we've repeatedly been told the auto industry is about to be rapidly remade by technology. Initially, the action was all about electric cars, but they have largely been a bust. Tesla occupies a market of one. Uber and its $60 billion to $70 billion valuation lent credence to the oft-debated notion that younger people would swear off driving and car ownership. But young people are now getting older and buying more cars. Uber is also in a state of near-continual crisis, and it has wasted an enormous amount of cash trying to be that thing Silicon Valley prizes above all else: an uncontested monopoly. Lyft, unfortunately, hasn't cooperated. The third narrative pivot involved self-driving cars. This has been the latest gold rush, but if Fields lost his job because Ford couldn't figure out how to effectively communicate its efforts in this space, then we should really take a closer look at Silicon Valley's almost total inability to create any kind of logical business case around autonomy. Google's self-driving podmobiles have been racking up miles, but as promising as the tech looks, its no closer to being widely commercialized than it was before Alphabet renamed its car business Waymo. Apple has ditched its car plans and now appears to be developing some kind of in-vehicle, self-driving interface. If there's a go-to-market, it's years off. A lot of people think there's a business with this stuff, but, thus far, there just hasn't been.

What I think is really scary is this self driving car thing is an invention of Silicon Valley and the hi tech world. Who needs it? Who wants it. Crash avoidance technology is one thing. a self driving car-or truck? Something else. Unfortunately Detroit seems to have swallowed this hook, line and sinker IMO

Wow-looks like the 4400-7400 cab on a custom chassis. I would think this says a lot about the capability of that cab or they have beefed it up to handle that chassis. Either way says good things about the cab-or am I dreaming?

Scary thing I read earlier associated with Fields departure was they might think of getting out of small cars. Brilliant! until the Iranians sink a few VLCC's in strait of Hormuz. But the idiot press will applaud for "prompt decisive action".... or some other similar bullsh*t.

So Rich where did that single ale A- car come from?

Well guys I do know a guy who has recently constructed a hydrogen receipt facility of some sort just off I-495 just before Lowell MA. He did the civil work (ground, concrete). I think the customer may have been Praxair. Obviously this thin g was not built because of "hydrogen class 8s" but there are other needs for hydrogen. I'll see if I can get more details.

My point is not what Ford (or should I say Jac the Knife) wanted to do-it is what Daimler did for a mere 300 million-like I said they eliminated a competitor that had close to 10% of class 8 and 20% of class 7. Now the argument that Ford made more on Super duty pick ups? No Argument. But if you buy that logic than everyone should shed all assets other than the one that makes the greatest return. We would end up with nothing but "specialists". That logic says Fields should stop building all cars because nothing makes Ford as much money today as loaded F-150s and 250s.

Hmm-- Somewhere in Sweden, I think there is a copy of the Daimler playbook..." Chapter X-How to Capture Ford's Class 7 and 8 Market Share and Avoid Being Sued by the Dealers"

Matt-what was the donor truck?