1958 F.W.D.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1000475895001/antique-truck-show?playlist_id=87491 Nice news story about Macungie. Be sure to watch the video and the cute reporter handling an old White dump truck.

Bulklhusk, many of the folks here, myself included, bring trucks. It's always best to pre-register ahead of time, to save yourself the wait in line if you arrive on Saturday morning, which sometimes can be a half-hour or more if you did not pre-register. However I believe the pre-registration period is over, so you really have no choice. Here is a link to the registration paperwork (highly recommend you fill it out ahead of time and bring it with you to save time) and the show grounds rules/regulations and maps. Just show up with your Brockway during the regulation times, pull in the driveway off of Route 100 (there will be people directing traffic and showing you where to go) and follwo the directions for NON pre-registered. You'll pay $15 and then go where they tell you to go. http://www.antiquetruckclubofamerica.org/docs/macungie2011.pdf

I have the same type of set up on my F.W.D. pumper. I'll have to crawl under there and study it for a while, maybe I can lend some advice. (oh that is scary.....)

I'll see everyone over at the Watts tent at high noon on Saturday. But if anyone happens to be wandering over by the firetrucks, you can't miss me, I am the only F.W.D. firetruck (and the usually the only F.W.D. at the show for that matter) stop by and ask for me, my name is Randy.

I'll be there with the F.W.D. Firetruck. Only about 20 miles from the house, kinda hard for me NOT to go..!!!!!! And as for SWMBO (she who must be obeyed) there are two shows a year that she knows not to screw with me over- Macungie, and the Pennsylvania Pump Primer's Muster in Harrisburg the second Saturdays in July. All the other local car/truck shows I go to I "let her think" she is in control.

What exactly are you going to haul, and how often are you going to do it? Remember, the minute you accept any money for hauling anything, you have broken a money law, and they frown on breaking money laws. Again, I don't know the laws of the state of New York, but if they are the same or similar to Pennsylvania, they might be able to legally define (for regulatory purposes) what you can and cannot do under a historic tag, however proving what you are and are not doing are two different things entirely. First of all, it would take a Cop with a pool cue shoved halfway up his ass to hassle you to begin with. I have never been pulled over (maybe being in a firetruck might have something to do with that, who knows) but even if you are pulled over, what are they going to say to you: "I dont like these boxes in here?" Keep your nose clean, your equipment in good order, and all of your documents handy and in good order, and you will be fine. I have all of my documents (registration, insurance, CAT weight receipt and even a letter from the Commissioner of the Pennsylvania Bureau of Driver Licensing) all in clear sheet protectors in a 3-ring binder behing the seat. That way if I ever DO get pulled over, first thing Mister Smokey (or local yokel) hopefully sees is that I am professional all the way. I do not have a CDL, which is NOT required in the State of Pa for a privately-owned antique that is not within commerce. My trucks chassis GVWR is 29,000lbs however on a good day when fully loaded she does not exceed 19,000. So I also keep the letter from the State in the binder, along with the CAT ticket, just in case some over-zealous member of the law enforcement community decides on his own that I need a CDL. My insurance (and antique tags for that matter) basically says that I can only use my truck for parades, shows, and "leisure" drives. What is the definition of a "leisure" drive? Does this mean I cannot take it to my kid's kindergarten class if the teacher calls me and asks????? Can I not use it in a Firefighter's funeral? First of all, what cop is going to ticket me for a non-regulated use that is not clearly defined under Pa statuates, and secondly, how is he going to prove that me going to my kid's kindergarten class is a non-regulated use????

The CLAFAA (Cradle of Liberty Antique Fire Apparatus Association) Chapter of SPAAMFAA will be hosting our annual muster on July 24 on the grounds of the Delaware County Community College: July 24, Media, PA, CLAFAA MUSTER at Delaware Co. Comm. College, 901 Media Line Rd, 10AM to 3PM. (This location is less than 3 miles north of last year's Rose Tree Park location.) Delaware Valley Fire Muster run by the Cradle of Liberty Antique Fire Apparatus Association. This year's muster will honor 100 years of Motorized MACK Fire Apparatus. For more info visit clafaa.org.

Dont know the laws in NYS, but here in Pa. an antique gets antique tags for a one-time fee with a permanent registration. Why on earth would you want to tag it commercially? Thats going to cost you boo-koo bucks. As for occasionally hauling around stuff, thats your business, no one can stop you from hauling stuff as long as you are not doing it for hire/within the definition of commerce. As for insurance for my 1958 Firetruck, I have Condon & Skelly (Maple Shade, NJ.) Costs me about $70.00 (seventy) bucks a year for above-minimum coverage. I cannot exceed 2500 miles in one year (if I do 500 that was a busy year) and I cannot drive it between dusk and dawn. I have heard good things about JC Taylor Insurance also. One thing you DO NOT want to do is go through your own auto insurance carrier (unless they KNOW antique/classic coverage.) Go to the specialists like Condon & Skelly or JC Taylor- they know how to get you the best rates.

Doug, or anyone else "in the know"...... I went to the ATCA Website tonight to find the pre-registration form, it says right at the lower left of the main page to click on "Forms" for Macungie Registrations, but when you do, and then click on "Macungie Registration" on the drop-down menu, it says it's the form for 2009. Will they be posting one for 2011, or should I just use the 2009 form?????

And that my friend is the one single common trait among each and every communist.....errr ahhh I mean Liberal in this country- They hate it when you torpedo the argument with FACT and LOGIC.

A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age, she considered herself to be a very Liberal Democrat, and among other liberal ideals, was very much in favor of higher taxes to support more government programs, in other words, redistribution of wealth. She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch conservative, a feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she had participated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his. One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the need for more government programs. The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father. He responded by asking how she was doing in school. Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn't even have time for a boyfriend, and didn't really have many college friends, because she spent all her time studying. Her father listened and then asked , 'How is your friend Audrey doing?' She replied, ' Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes, she never studies, and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She Is so popular on campus; college for her is a blast. She's always invited to all the parties and lots of times she doesn't even show up for classes because she's too hung over.' Her wise father asked his daughter, 'Why don't you go to the Dean's office and ask him to deduct 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA, and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA.' The daughter, visibly shocked by her father's suggestion, angrily fired back, 'That's a crazy idea, how would that be fair! I've worked really hard for my grades! I've invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!' The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, 'Welcome to The conservative party.' If anyone has a better explanation of the difference between conservative and Liberal I'm all ears. If you ever wondered what side of the fence you sit on, this is a great test! If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one. If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed. If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.. If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone. If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life. If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect. If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation. A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him. If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels. Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down. If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church. A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced. (Unless it's a foreign religion, of course!) If a conservative reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh. A liberal will delete it because he's "offended

The Spring Thaw just isn't what it used to be 10 years ago. Back then, by 0900, the line to get in the door would stretch all the way back and up into the upper level parking lot, and if you were at the end of the line, it was 30-45 minutes to get in the door. Then, when you did get inside, it was shoulder to shoulder people. You could find almost anything antique- truck parts, old gear, equipment, books, magazines, etc. Nowadays it's just getting to be another high-priced tshirt and blue light show. The economy is taking it's toll, as not as many people are showing up, and everything is high-priced- I assume because sellers are not moving as much as they used to, they have to make thier money somehow. Also I have heard that eBay is killing a lot of the "little" sellers. Anymore, I just go to say hello to old friends that I always see there. For you new timers, make sure you have lunch at the RITZ diner, right on the other side of the main parking lot- best Pennsylvania Dutch pulled pork sandwiches and milkshakes ever.

If you have to ask, you can't afford it......LOL

Nice Doug!!!! When my Dad worked for Charles E. Danbury many moons ago pulling new trailers (mostly out of the Trailmobile Plant in Lansdale Pa.) he had a single screw Hayward F-Model with a 300/5 speed and a 2-speed rear. Great truck for pulling trailers only. Then later on when he went to freight he bought an Allentown twin screw, I think it was a 300/10 speed. Nice looking truck, will you have it at Macungie????

The one and only "Mack Oracle" you need to concern yourself with and ask about the filters is Harvey Eckert, who is always at Allentown selling books. I know I have pointed people to him before with parts inquiries.

Get a sample of your crankcase oil analyzed. Dont know where you are located, but check around various truck dealers to see who they use to do analysis. If this does not pan out, call Giles and Ransome (CAT Dealer) in Bensalem, Pa. They will do analysis of anything. You call them, give them your credit card number, and for (if I remember correctly) it's like 28 bucks, they will send you the kit which has: -long thin plastic line (but sturdy!) to snake into your dipstick tube about 4' long -a sample bottle -an overpack bottle -a pre-paid tyvek mailing envelope. All you do is fill out the paperwork they give you as detailed as you can (oil make, type, number of hours or miles, engine make/model/serial etc etc etc.) Get it good and hot, drop the plastic tube down in there with the other end down on the floor, draw a suction on it, let it flow into and fill the bottle, drop that bottle into the overpack bottle, send it off to G & R, and in 5-8 days you will be emailed a complete report with recommendations as to what to do. They might even call you if the situation warrants. I have used them before and they are good people to work with. Had to talk to the girl in the lab on the phone (she had questions for me, I had a sample of my 1958 Waukesha gas engine analyzed and it threw her for a loop at first...hahaha) she really knew her shit and knew engines.

Here is a similar FWD for sale. http://www.desertclassics.com/FWD504x4.html

Might also be an F.W.D.- they used these cabs on a utility truck chassis they marketed for a while.

My 1958 F.W.D. firetruck (F554 Waukesha Gas) gets about 3MPG on a good day going downhill, so my show activities will probably slow down this summer, same as the summer of Katrina......However Macungie is only about 20 miles from the house, so that's one of the shows I WILL make it to.

That one picture of it in front of a firehouse is absolutely no doubt Engine 36 & Ladder 20's house on Frankford Avenue. And Jack Wright is a good man, I have known him for a long time. If he said it, you can etch it in stone.

Captain Bob, you need to private message FDNYTRUCKS.com He is a member here, his name is Mike Martinelli. He is a GOD when it comes to cataloging Mack serial numbers and original purchasers. He maintains meticulous records, and even has extensive records of second and third owners. He might even see this and respond. In fact I will hit him up on facebook and tell him to take a peek here.

Does it matter? it's NOT RED!!!! Either way it's SLIME LIME!

The single screw scope sat outside that grain place next to I95 (the one with the 2 huge grain tanks in Port Richmond) with all the other heavy equipment for years. Dont know what ever happened to it after that.

Yes, that's "The Spring Thaw." Greatest and largest fire flea market in the US.

You really, really need to hook up with Harry Magee. He is a super buff and PFD historian, and knows ways to "get around the property numbers." Anyone else at the Museum (no offense to them) are usually just light-duty firefighters who could really care less about apparatus. And if Harry cannot find what you need without the city property numbers, he knows guys who kept track of that stuff and keep good records.