I have read your past posts and can agree with you on many of the points. But what did we really expect when Mack was sold to Volvo? Has Volvo taken some of what Mack had to offer in engineering and people and incorporated that into the product lines? I was impressed with the investement that Volvo put into the Mack customer center and I believe Volvo management does appreciate the history of the Mack company and means to preserve it. Our country has changed alot over the years in how we view foreign investment. There was a time Chrysler was wanting to buy Mack and that got shutdown by the FTC and that would never be an issue today. As for Zenon Hansen there is no doubt he was a great leader and visionary. But the maxidyne concept was underway when he arrived and with his leadership it went into production. Zenon was also a great salesman and that goes along way in promoting a product and especially a product that performed as the Mack line did at that time. But what has deregulation done to the manufacturer's? For Mack it had to have an effect as many of the concentrated unionized truck lines were on the east coast. These were second and third generation ran companies that grew up with the bulldog and had loyalty. The improvement of the components from all of the vendors has certainly contributed to a more homogenized product out there and it is now more sales and dealer involvement that makes a difference. You can read Montville's book Mack and then take it from that time foward and see that Mack was always on a roller coaster ride financially. Big investments led to a new product that later aged and profits would fall until they ramped up again and so on. That is why Signal invested in Mack and once they saw the end of the line they bailed. I recently purchased a new Mack and would do so again as it has treated us well, the dealer is solid, and it performs. I still see alot of "real" trucks such as dumps, logging, refuse, etc that run Mack rears and the camelback suspension with a bronze bushing. It is still a valid suspension for the right reasons.