Bullheaded

One thing about it, my 2000 CH and the CL's I drove with the aero style headlights....those were the best lighting of any truck I have ever driven.

I really liked driving the CL Elites. They were a nice truck. I would kill for one now.

Pics I took from the Sudbury, ON branch of my local dealer. New CL logger tractors with ISX 565 power. It was right up to this point most loggers around here were still spec'ing the Hendrickson RT walking beams on leaf springs. No one wanted air ride. All the old school guys were still into walking beams.

Here's the truck I was going to buy for the 2005 season. Was a real beauty. But unfortunately as I was doing the deal I started hearing all the horror stories of the ASET 460 and the low power issues. And back then no one around here had all the fixes we now know of. So in the end I ended up buying a Paystar 5600i with Cat power.

Just found these.

Bummer. I scanned all my brochures to send to someone, but I erased the files. Except I still had these on my computer.

Just a while ago I dug out all my old Mack CH brochures and the magazine articles covering the announcement of it. It really brought back good memories of my 2000 CH midrise E7-460. I remember up to that point I used to get really excited about new truck introductions. Now I see new model changes and it's....look at that piece of crap. LOL. I really hate change now.

Dirty dirty minds, LOL Anyway, back to this quote.....as far as pulling, I know the MP8 505 motors would walk all over the DD15 505. Another thing I noticed.....the ONLY hard part issue I ever had with the DD15 (beside on-going emissions problems) was the fan belt tensioners always failed. They have three flat faced pulleys on them and were $850 Canadian. We replaced two in 350,000 KM. Problem was the face would wear uneven and the belt would then walk off. Well, they now have ribbed pulleys on them. Talked to a guy today that has a Granite dump truck I once posted pics of on this site. Has an MP8 505 and M-Drive. He said he has had ZERO emission issues. Even my friend that has that twin steer Star in the pics above. He previously had a Titan MP10 605 and he had very few issues with it.

I love those. I saw that company that is making brand new ones on Jay Leno, so I looked them up. They are almost $200,000!!! Guess I'll never have one.

That's why! Wasn't the cab I was looking at, LOL. If it's anything like the jobs I work, that sleeper would come in handy. Thus my bench seat. LOL. Well first day of work today. hauled gravel and pulled a load of cement lego blocks on the three axle tag float. I don't know why Detroit still makes the DD15. This DD13, now that it has 1850 torque, will walk all over my old DD15 . I like it so far. And it's easier on fuel. So now they only offer the DD15 with 1750 torque. But the DD13 is 505/1850. They may as well just have the DD13 and the DD16 600. And as far as engine braking, it is almost the same, but you have to wind it up to higher RPM's to get the same power.

Thanks. You guys are good! LOL. I know guys that ran those V6 engines and they said they were very strong for their day.

What model Mack is that water truck Rob? That cab corner looks odd to me for a Mack cab?

That was quick! Thanks Rob! I was guessing 67/68 but |I wasn't sure. I don't know much about the old GMC's, other than the Brig's and the 5 Star General's.

Maybe I'll lose some weight now. While I like the bench seat, I can no longer mount my 12V fridge between the seats like my 2013. It has to go on passenger side floor, so I can't reach it now. LOL. Made my floor easier to clean now.

Ya, they changed it in Ontario Canada. It is called SPIF. It stands for Safe(NOT) Productive and Infrastructure Friendly. Ya, you gotta be a government employee to come up with crap like that. Anyway, we can no longer have control. It has to go down automatically when you load and it has to self equalize, which is why air ride is the way to go. It can be done on spring and rubber block, but then you have to have load cells which so far are proving unreliable. You can lift it by cycling the 4 way flashers on for 4 seconds, then off for 4 seconds, then back and leave on. It will then stay up until you hit 60 KPH. Now try doing that in an accident avoidance situation. Because despite the government saying they steer in the winter, they DO NOT. That is why my old truck had an over-ride switch installed in the cab. And this one has the newly approved Canada/USA over-ride. But still no regulator in cab. I would have to move it myself. They took it out of the cab when they did the install by law. I know when I have my full legal load on (80,000 pounds) the lift and my rear suspension are at 70 PSI.

Well, since I've adopted all of you as my source of old truck knowledge, can anyone tell me what year and model this GMC is? My friend wants to know. It was a local-to-him township truck back in the day. Thanks.

Yep, I used to haul bigger loads on a tandem than my new tri-axle is legal for, and the old tandems had no front brakes. I never killed anyone. People knew how to drive back then, LOL.

If that's not something like wood chips, I'm gunna say he is way over loaded, LOL. Like I always say "load it like a rail car, drive it like a race car" LOL

Oh, Okay. Now I see why you want one. Sorry I can't recommend a specific brand, like I say I'm not currently using one, but I've had a few different brands in dump trailers and they all worked.

Both trucks are 46,000 Meritor's on 46,000 Air Liner. I like it. Never had an issue with it.

Thanks everyone. Rob, the lift is 141 inches back from the steer and 100 inches ahead of the first drive (hub center to center). The main thing is the 100 inch ahead of the rears. The spacings will effect your allowable gross quite a bit here. But this is the optimal dimensions here. It gives me what they call SPIF Schedule 23 which gives me the max allowable for my rear axle spread. Only way to legal more if if I had 72 inch spread. This SPIF law we have here in Ontario requires these axles to go down automatically once you put a certain amount of weight in the box, they steer and they also have to self equalize with the rear axles. I do have an override though to work it manually. They just amended that law, that we can now have a Canada/USA switch in them...but still illegal to use manual here. You pretty much have to load these trucks nose heavy to get my 19841.6 pounds on each axle. Back in the White days, Star was hand built one at a time, built to order in BC Canada. Then along came Daimler, moved them to Portland, OR and turned them into an expensive Freightliner, LOL. The benefit of Star is they are the only one that still used basic wiring in these models (not the 4700 or 5700 though) Not full of modules. And they have a good frame and big strong crossmembers, and cab and powertrain mounts.

That is sweet! I live in an area that used to have a lot of Diamond Reo's back in their day.

I'm not currently. But I have used them in dump trailers. Most name brands are good, but you have to make sure you get an asphalt liner if you haul asphalt, otherwise the heat will warp and melt a regular one. The ones I have used have holes in them and they weld washers over them to hold the lined. The washers are flush nothing sticks out. Same with live bottom (belt) trailers. Not all belts are compatible with asphalt. I don't really see the need for one unless you have an aluminum box and haul rock or big abrasive chunks.

It's really too bad. Because if that mass EGR would have worked, they would have been hero's. So many people bought Maxxforce's to avoid DEF fluid, especially up in the cold climates. This was a hard fail for International to swallow. Their new trucks, like the HX are awesome and well built. Yet MANY will never consider one because they associate International with Maxxforce.

Thanks. Yes, have a tri-axle pony and a tri-axle tag float also. This is the unit this one replaced. Truck is legal for 80,000 pounds gross here and 140,000 with pony.