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Thanks Logtruckman!!!! Can you just copy and post the link so we can find it?? I don't do face$#ck so I tried searching you-tube but it is not on there.

We just use standard air powered roll tarps that come on our Bibeau boxes from Gin-Cor.

I go everywhere with air ride. Wouldn't want anything but now.

Man, I agree. Sick of all the constant bitching about Volvo. Get over it. Maybe you all should have gotten loans and bought Mack yourself, LOL.

No pics yet....but I wouldn't get a control tower. I like them down on the floor between the driver seat and the the drivers door. That's leaves you cab free between the seats to put a cooler/fridge, etc. I've also had all the controls on the dash depending on truck model (if it has the room.) I find the control towers are excessively large for what is on/in them. Plus I don't like the in-cab controls for my pony trailers. I switched them to all manual in the box on the pony itself. And I use a manual diverter. In cab controls are nice......until the salt green death gets into all the electrical. Plus I like an excuse to get out of the truck once in a while.

The 45* is nice as you get no material hung up on it and more clearance dumping into a spreader. But if you get stuck you better have a chain to pull with as there is no push plates on the back to put a blade against. I looked but don't have any pics of my interior on this computer. If I remember I'll post pics of the tower when I get home.

They have a contract with Allison that is ending.......they agreed to make Allison exclusive in the vocational models, in return they got a cheaper price on them. That's why for a long time it was cheaper to get Allison's in Mack's than most other makes. The M-Drive is coming for Granite's. If you think they won't handle off road, you should check out the 700 h.p. Volvo loggers over seas.

True....maybe an American outfit would have bought them and maybe it COULD have been better. Or maybe we could have ended up with more super reliable E7 E-Techs that killed off all of Macks market share and customer loyalty like in the early 2000's......that Mack is just starting to get back. Or maybe we could have got the same quality my 2013 Western Star was built with in Carolina, which is far below the build quality of my Mexican built 2012 Freightliner Coranado SD.

Holy crap......get over it! Volvo SAVED Mack. Mack was dying a quick death with the junk they were building from 2000 to 2006. No, the new "Volvo's" will never be like the pre 90's Mack's........but nothing else will ever be as good either. It's a new world. Get used to your mass produced junk and be happy we have what we have.

Can't see why the Titan's didn't work out for them. My friends Titan loggers are performing well. My new Western Star on the other hand.......very poor build quality. Not to mention they installed the wrong rad mounts and engine fan.

Thanks for the info. I'd like to see their other stuff because that Superliner is a beauty!

You are part correct. The Maxx 13 is a MAN engine and the Maxx 15 is the C15 Cat block. Both failed miserably because of the mass egr. Latest rumour is Cat is once again working on their own engine. I can't see it though....the new ctl loaders have Kubota motors in them and the new dpf equipped excavators have identical interiors, manufacturer decals and hydraulic shudder as the new Komatsu's. What is happening to Cat? Sad.

I don't have an MP10 to compare, but the 600 Cummins in our 2012 Coronado SD is gutless. My 550 Cat with identical gearing and tire size will pull hills 15 to 20 mph faster. Got two friends with MP10 605's and they love them. One got out of an E9 and said his new one pulls the hills in the same gear.

Funny you say that, I had Freightliner catch fire over the weekend because of that. Only thing that saved it was I had the dump box up to the first stage and when it burnt through the hydraulic line, the box came down and the forcing oil flow extinguished the fire.

First off let me say I love Camelback. But my current dump truck is air ride, and I would never buy anything but again. The ride quality is unbeatable. As far as traction, you need to learn few things first. If you've been moving and bouncing, sometimes you need to hit the susp. dump valve for a couple seconds, because if the bags are pressured right up and topped out, you will spin out. For the most part in sand, I can go where rubber block and spring trucks won't move. But you have to get used to playing with that dump valve. Also you want to dump the air when dumping your load, to avoid the bags topping out. It is hard on them. Only time I don't dump the air is if I'm dumping into a spreader, as the load comes out slow enough it has time to adjust. Stability....doesn't bother me. I have spread with air in the bags. Truck is still upright. Very low maintenance. I've rarely ever replaced an air bag, and nothing to grease. They are just so much easier on the truck and the driver. So your oppinions may vary....but it is air for this guy.

Sweet!! That brings back memories! Nice truck.

What is in the square box under the drivers door, besides the urea tank? Are the batteries in there also? Nice truck. Have a friend where I live that has a new Titan self loader log truck with the 605 and he loves it. Told me it pulls the hills in the same gears as his old E-9 powered CL.

Just wondering....when is Mack's "Allison Exclusive" deal for auto's in the vocational models done? I thought it was this year or next? Just wondering when we will be able to get the M-Drive in the Granite and Titan?

Ya, I don't understand why you can't order this and have the Mod Centre build it. This and the one that Mik Mak did look more integrated than the one Mack did with the little hos sleeper.

Just a couple cool pics. The front and back cover of the 1982 Canadian Bulldog Magazine. The front is one of the "new" RD800 test units up in Alberta. The back is one of my favourite Superliner adds.

Here you go Bad Dog. Here is a pic of one of your Mercury Superliners we were talking about. I scanned it out of the first issue of 1982 Canadian Bulldog Magazine. I sure miss those Canadian issues.....it was nice to see all the new Macks sold around our own area. You think this may be that one Detroit powered unit? Sure is nice looking anyway. Hopefully you can give us all the background on this unit. Wish I had a pic of one of the V8 F797ST models. They would look sharp in that colour scheme.

Ha ha, kinda figured you guys would have at least seen that truck. I took those pics (unfortunately had to take through the fence)when i was at the last Ritchie Brothers auction by Bolton a couple weeks ago. It was parked in that area. One hell of a truck. Looks well taken care of. Possible I've seen you bobo. Spent my share of time in the plant and hauling up to Hearst and Kap. You work the Superliner? Ya, I like the north. I hate going to southern Ontario (no offense to anyone, just too hectic and busy for my liking.) I find the moose are much safer drivers than most 4 wheelers in Toronto and Montreal.

Thanks for the pics Mack 3P. I can't wait to see more of the Granite sleeper and the Titan when it gets it. Those small bunks come in handy now on dump trucks to get by the HOS.

I'm just north of Sault Ste. Marie. You know anything about this Superliner bobo? I see it down south all the time. That is one sweet float.

Ya, it's too bad Mack has that agreement with Allison for the vocational trucks, be nice to have that M Drive in a Granite.