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that red g-model is sweet.

Except splicing frame rails together.....def SMAW (stick) not mig.

It looks like the truck has had some work to it. It looks like a 237 with the oiler cooler, spin-on oil filter,s and water filter. That is homemade air cleaner mount behind the cab because that style cleaner won't fit to well in the normal spot. The cab looks like it may not be original or had some work to it beacuse it doesn't have a vent or opening for the air cleaner. That's not to say that someone could have filled in the opening and did body work to it. I wonder what type of mixer it had on it. Maybe it had a small pony motor to drive it on the behind the cab. The bumper does't have a pump mount and I couldn't tell if the rad support is the low-slung type for a front pump drive from the crank?

The turbo kit on the 711 was a Mack solution to the 711 blowing head gaskets.It moved the heat out of the head quicker than without it. Mack also redesigned the head to have more head bolts to aide in clamping of the gaskets.

The engine is thermodyne it looks like a 711 or a 673P with the "tuned" manifolds. There should be model numbers stamped on the front housing of the block.

if I had some spare cash It would be headed back to pgh.

Sunday August 26 "See the largest display of restored antique trucks in Western Pennsylvania. Dozens of classic pickups, tractor trailers, delivery trucks and tractros from the Tri-State Antique Truck Club, Washington and Greene County Antique Tractor Association. Trolley Rides Every 15 minutes and plenty of activities for the family. Visit our website www.patrolley.org or call 724-228-9256 for more information!" more

WELCOME! There is a truck show at the trolley musuem near the fairground this sunday

Welcome! where from sw/pa are you from?? There are a few of us from the region on here.

Yes an interesting article I believe was titled "how 8 men stood up to U.S. Steel" was about how F.A.S.H started in Gary,in. There was a lot of stuff that was not printed in the press as well. There was a story I was told of Point Transfer out of canton, oh trying to run coils out of U.S. Steel Irvin Works during the strike. 3 trucks made it out of the plant, two were stopped on rt 51 and their drivers pulled out and trucks destroyed and one made it as far as Carnegie. The local police chased the truck out of its hiding spot behind a local grocery store because they didn't want problems in their town but informed my dad and a few others who got the word out to other local steel haulers. The cabover white made it as far as Bridgeville pa before the local guys put it out of commission and stripped the truck of everything from tarps and binders to light bulbs and batteries. The local police looked the other way. They knew what was going on and didn't agree with running during a strike.

That's good. How does the truck ride since the re-bush on the neway? How did you end up repairing the transverse beam pin where the bushing sits? We just got one set of (both right and left equalizing beam) welded up and ground to diameter. The axle pivot bushing came out with slight ease. We made up puller out of 7/8"x14 all tread and tapped the old bushing to 7/8"x14...seen an OTC Hendrickson axle bushing sevice kit that was pretty much the same thing including the tap. It worked fairly good.

Likewise I would replace both. If the studs are pitted or worn thin like a 711 I took apart I'd replace them. I'd start at Mack or pai. I'd be surprised if an arp or other stud mfg has them. When I did head gaskets on my 673 I had a hard time figuring out which ones I needed because I couldn't identify which 673 I had. The numbers where ground off on the block. After some matching up with gaskets that watts we figured It out. I took my manifold and turbo off because the manifold had a crack in it. Then I took one head at a time which I could man handle off the truck. Set the valves Cold to spec with a filler gauge. I have old started button rigged up to with leads hooked to the started to bump the motor over on fire order.

It was pleasure to meet you! Maybe one day you'll get a R-model and bring it to the watts show. It was enjoyable to hear some stories and events that took place during the heyday of trucking. I've been told guys like my dad and that fellow old timer who were "shooting the breeze" are the last of a dying breed. I would have to agree with that fact. There are not too many guys left out there today that drive, maintain, and rebuilt their trucks like that anymore. And if they are left they should be considered the "real truck drivers" because they can drive transmission or engine, blink marker lights, and help out fellow guys on shoulder with thor hood open. They also know to drive safe so the don't have to "have the door open getting ready to jump when going down Munster on rt.22". When they retire they can tell the joke "how is the fastest way to make a million dollars trucking??...start with 2 million". Hahah we both had a great time at the show. It was nice talking and seeing to Barry, Tom, and Jim watt. More and more trucks keep showing up year after year. Like I told Barry sooner or later the watts show will be referred to macgunie west lol On another note F.A.S.H is pretty interesting subject and shows what guys were up against in the 60s and 70s who were hauling steel in the Midwest and east coast.

I should be there with my b, my dad and the newest edition to our family my little girl Penelope

Get it right the first time. Pay the extra price to get it done right and not have to replace 3 or 4 harness'. Pay the extra for it to be made right the first time; here in the states or made union, it is a lot less than to have a customer not having a truck for days on end. For a company to continue to manufacture harness' and have to replace them time after time is assinine. Some management genius or mba with no common sense has the great idea to save pennys on labor costs because "the unions are lazy and make to much money" but then winds up spending dollars on replacing said parts numerous times. All the hidden costs associated should be factored in with having to replace a defective part over and over again. You lose said customer because he claims that "mack trucks are junk we had ours in for a harness 4 times and it still didn't fix it" He (customer) says "we really liked freightliner we rented while our junk mack was in the shop" then trades in his Mack for another brand. It all adds up to lost business because someone thought it would be a bright idea to outsource a critical component because the wages are extremely less. Pay for it now or pay for it later.....

It's a pig. It lacks power sometimes when you hammer it or have a long hard pull. You run out of power, it has "no balls."

Hang in there buddy, best of luck!!!!

Avella is nice country. I've worked with a lot of guys from the there. Its turning into hillbilly rich now with all the drilling going on, but its still nice country. I like taking some sunday afternoon rides in the B model out that way... head out rt. 50 pickup 844 into washington then run back up to Carnegie.

I talked with a local axle repair shop yesterday. I'm going to take equalizing beam to them and see what they can due if I were to weld it up back to size. I also got the pricing back from neway(SAFholland) for a new equalizing beam.....$3065.00 a piece! There would be a month lead time from the factory not that it matters to me. Rob I snapped a couple pics of the hangers on both the 244-6 and the 125-6. The rear hangers on my tandem (244-6) are concaved as well. The hangers on the single axle(125-6) currently in truck are concaved too. I don't know what the reasons as to why they are but my guess is something to due with the location of the fifth wheel? Less notching on different types of fifth wheel frames to go around the brackets maybe?

We must be in the same boat. My pins are wore egg shaped so its time to get "creative" to repair. By creative I mean to repair the pin correctly or replace the arms.

Same here...no luck under the bags for the tag. That's why I had to refer to the charts to identify the different type I or type II parts. The pictures don't help out at all. The existing ard-125 single axle in the truck now has the ID tag riveted on the passanger side hangers not on the bag plate. @rob-It would prob be better just to stick with PG Adams or Ritter (Local Fab Shop) and go with new rails. That way it's less of a pain than messing with a rusty wore frame that would have to be drilled,fitted and or patched up anyways. thanks for the offer though!

You said the frame is shot? What exactly is wrong with it? I know these frames are 2 and 3 piece frames. If the frame is in good shape with no major defects ie twists, cracks or rust out. I might be interested I it? Is the front of the frame drilled to bolt up to the other cruiseliner frame sections or is it just burned off with a torch? Since these frames are in sections I have a few calls into pg adams and a local fab shop for quotes for frame sections to bolt up.

@ rob's original question "how to identify" look at page 8. This is how I figured out which one Im working with. @freightrain on page 24 is the leveling valve setup. http://www.huskidrive.com/files/downloads/neway_ard_manual.pdf

couple more. I think its a 244-6 or is it a 234? This is the intermediate axle.

Heres the different airbags. The first picture shows the bag I think would work better with the rounded-over top plate.The second picture has the bag setup thats on the 38k Mack rears. The bags are chaffed and worn near the top from rubbing on the flat flange. This bag isn't too bad but the others are: rusted out top plates and worn bags.