mechohaulic
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a far out try would be to having truck on blocks /jacks or whatever securely safe;; place in gear with engine running start giving "jabs " to clutch pedal working it up and down. purpose would be to work intermediate plate in pressure / release while spinning. long shot the spinning centrifugal force and weight will work the crooked dogs.
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not alone on that one Jojo . springs should be part of the clutch disc or the anti rattle springs refer to the wedges placed on clutch pressure plate hold down bolts. can't be the springs located on clutch brake housing ??? also remember it was stated fiber on clutch brake was worn on one side ; doesn't have alot to begin with add on the grease.
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construction co in CT =Beard constuction had decked out B/DM's dumps similar to pictures. chrome all over. waterbury Mack ordered two black beautys had me install all sorts of chrome; ticket was waterbury mack never asked Beard first. goal was to take account away from west haven Mack. Allan Beard told waterbury to stuff the trucks he didn't want them. YES heads did roll on that loss.
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PICTURES ARE EXCELLENT . thanks . makes me wish I made the venture down there. I would have been easy to spot; look for the ole guy with a cane ,LOL
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real nice looking unit. A+A+
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I couldn't make the 4 hr trip to Macungie PA truck show from CT so I can't take a road call trip to Slocan BC . sure would like to:: I can't stand when a mechanical issue "defeats "me.
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they won't fallout. if they move enough to straighten out when you loosen then they will move enough to go crooked again. they don't settle. no groove to set in just round hole through flywheel.
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purpose of the dogs is to hold the intermediate plate making it act as a flywheel face. if the plate didn't slide the first disc against the flywheel it self would never disengage. If the clutch pedal is pressed down (2x4) can you go under side with along screw driver and move the clutch disc. should be able to see them through one of the bellhousing holes. might have to turn flywheel (by hand/ bar etc0 to see disc
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10=4 on the idea to replace clutch; that's called common sense. "how much is the doggy in the window" this case toooo much .LOL "I did kinda tap plate " 😱. DO NOT loosen the dogs from outside. if that works and doesn't create a bigger problem then my suggestion is to run right out and buy a lottery ticket. you would be one lucky individual. you don't have any way of holding the dogs . also if the dogs were removed during flywheel machining difficult to decide where to put them back one side worn more then other then put in opposite will put you where you are now. it's removal time
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restudy pictures ;; why does the forks seem to be covered in grease : not helping brake, also you stated disc looks worn ???? Have seen brake disc totally worn/ greased still might be a little grinding in and out of gear = but can disengage. back to flywheel dogs- sorry to ruin your day.
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It's obvious you have "Your sh-t together" mechanically ; has to be a simple situation. back to square one would put me to the flywheel dogs . new or reuse old dogs? as earlier stated , I use the center intermediate plate; should have been new with clutch assy making sure plate slides freely. hoping as you are to resolve this technical difficulty WITHOUT PULLING TRANS
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not dismissing motor mounts as to partial problem if sticks move excess. if this unit had strictly mechanical linkage ; meaning ALL steel rods/ clevis etc THEN motor mounts would have a greater impact on operation. having cable:: mounts not so much issue. did original unit have same clutch brake set up?not to be a bigger than am pain in ass BUT with clutch "engaged" what is clutch brake disc suppose to make contact with? should be nose cone of trans, all pictures sent helped out greatly can't see brake disc though
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100 thanks for pictures ; big question is WHERE'S THE CLUTCH BRAKE? when you say "gave it quick adjust" = do you mean adjust from outside linkage? thats for clutch brake. the yellow tag on pressure plate (5/8th socket) is for adjusting clutch.
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another thought in reference to worn mounts== mounts worn bad enough to screw up engage/disengage :: the shift lever(levers) should rock back and forth or sideways if you prefer
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so flywheel WAS machined: leaving 1% outer edge due to machining capability OR because dogs were left in place ? after dogs removed/replaced = have used the center intermediate plate for realignment tool also. flywheel on floor install dogs , slide center plate back and forth till it slides easy after all dogs tighten . which brings about another question; were new dogs installed or reuse old . worn will break ba-ls as will new. new have to be perfect alignment or it will hang up.
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something still not right by sounds. can't be in traffic not being able disengage clutch and stop
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not doubting your mechanical ability - going by situation ; I still go with internal issue with clutch disc installed backwards not releasing tension . have installed new clutch assy that still needed adjusting on pressure plate ring. with clutch brake being adjusted on outside adjustment.
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have you tried the pedal down and inspect clutch brake underside to see if brake is tight against pressure plate throw out bearing?? even if it wasn't you shouldn't have had issue with truck not coming out of gear when running.
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even if flywheel was not machined; couldn't be that bad disc won't disengage. if an old style fiber discs were taken out and "new" style button disc clutch was installed = still should work
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heck it's late off topic I go :: why did the tune come to mind when I read "the ace helpful hardware man"LOL
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sounds like rain may mess things up at macungie . got an injection in one hip on monday almost looked promising to be able to do some walking around Pa. squashed that idea on tuesday after taking heck of a shiter while weed trimming high grass on rock pile in yard. dumb Polack !!LOL
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where did the "shell answer man " go ?? how am I suppose to sleep tonight not knowing !!😂
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has to be a basic issue . try the pedal down see what is contacting or not ; have to keep us updated; these things are tuff on us ole folk not being there to check and say " there's the problem it's simple fix. "
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1/2in between throw out and new clutch brake was stated; that tells me its a spicer/eaton with pull clutch and brake on input shaft . clutch adjust internal on pressure plate with clutch brake adjustment on external linkage.
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any possibility of a picture from ground level looking up INTO bellhousing lower inspection / adjusting hole?? at this point we are all reading the same book ; we are just on different pages sorta speaking.
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