Now keep in mind that I'm in Cat's home stomping ground but JCB has not been able to get a foothold in the area. I've talked with many operators that have ran them all and they say Cat is the best and will outlast most of the european and japanese machines by at least twice. I know that when I went to purchase a used backhoe I looked at a 410B John Deere, a 580E Case, a comparable JCB, (214, I think) and a 416B Cat, all used with around 4500 hours on each. These were all private owned machines. The JCB machine was cleaner physically than any of the others but was plain and simple "worn out". None of the tractors had ever ran a breaker, and only the Case had been welded upon. The engine in the JCB was Perkins, which Cat now owns. The Case machine was purchased due to rapid parts availability and pricing. The Cat stuff was exhorbitant, (as usual), the JCB parts were not only a "wait till we get em" type arrangment, but the cost was above exhorbitant and there is only one dealer within about a hundred miles. The Deere parts were about on par with the Case machine, but the dealer's service department is not quite as friendly as the Case dealership. When I need help, or a special tool for repairs I could "borrow" it. I had purchased my skid steer from them also. I've heard their excavators are about the same as their backhoes but I have no experience with them. I've seen a lot of new ones in municipal use but rarely see an older one except on farms. No help I know but typical of myself, I know nothing. Rob