I've never questioned my orientation so haven't really needed to think about it. I've had several friends, customers, aquaintances, and former employees that are gay, lesbian, straight, bisexual, and anything out of what would be mostly considered normal, and have treated them no differently than anyone else all my life. I try to be an equal prick to everybody. We have to coexist in this world and bigotry is another one of those things I've not had a lot of patience/tolerance for. It is not my place to condone, or criticize others for their life's choices, but I will advise on how to stay mainstream if I have a clue. Since this subject has come up in the thread concerning Vinny, I'll say straight out I don't think the kid is gay. I do think he has some personal hangups or problems that need addressed such as very low self esteem, or belief in self worth. A broken family is a tough thing to get through for a young person especially in these trying times. I am happy Matt, (Papa) is there to offer the support or family support base he is lacking at home from the father figure. It is no less than comendable they have the relationship they do. This is what family is all about. I see Vinny having a hobby that will not attract many friends with the same interest, in the same age group. He is looking to fill that lack of companionship through relationships via the internet, (BMT for one). Most young boys his stated age are just starting to gain an interest in females as are the females becoming interested in males. Typically, automobiles and other major factor extra curricular activities don't enter into the adolescents mindset until the early teen years. Vinny has expressed several times there is no interest in girls, and without participation or sharing of his interest(s) by his peers, it can be a psycological battering to endure. Vinny needs to learn how to take a joke as the Dr. Phil poster was meant to be; and as it was when sent to me. Getting rid of Obama is one of the first steps to getting back to mainstream too. Rob