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Tom, Looks like a good save. What happened to the whole farm full of B models? Did you end up saving them? Mike

The company I got my H613 from had and H60, 6 H61's and 3 H613's. They had several H67's also before going to F models and Brockways with the F model cab. They called the H60 the "Gut-less Bitch" because it had no power. They said it was really cold to drive in the winter. One of the brothers is on the forum. Maybe he will chime in. I'm sure there are more than 8 Mack Jr's around. Dick Best has 2, Doug Mainey has one, Fred Chase has one, Cicio has one(I think that's who owns it. It is orange like his other trucks), Eiler Bros have one and this guy in Austrailia has one. That's 7 right there. Mike

By the way it cleaned up it the pictures it doesn't look like it needs anything. Isn't an RS with a V8 a pretty rare truck for the PA. It looks great. Mike

Somerset, Pa. About half an hour east of Pittsburgh on the turnpike.

You know everyone wants a Mack Jr. because it is the smallest Mack ever made. I have seen them priced in the $100,000 range. I don't know any selling prices. Of course the Mack Jr. is a Reo with Mack name plates. The ED is considered the smallest truck ever made by Mack. I don't know the number produced. There are still some around, but not that many. I am not surprised by the $17,000 price. I wouldn't pay it, but someone might. Mike

I live in PA, so what I say might not matter. I do not have a CDL. I drove a tandem axle IH transtar to Indiana this year bobtailing. I got pulled over by an Indiana state cop while looking at my toll ticket. He thought I was texting. He asked for my license and antique registration. I gave him my regular car drivers license. He had no comments about it. He did not like that I did not have a shoulder harness. Wanted to ticket me saying every vehicle in Indiana needed a shoulder harness seat belt. That is not the case for PA. I drove a tractor trailer to the ATHS national show in Syracuse. I did not get pulled over, but if I had I bet I would have gotten a ticket for not having a CDL and pulling a flat bed. If you plan on pulling a trailer regularly you are probably safest to have a CDL. If you are not pulling a trailer I would recommend not getting a CDL and licensing the truck as an antique. You still can drive it around for fun, but it will save you a lot of money. My father has a CDL and pulls trailer frequently with his trucks with antique and classic PA tags. He has never been pulled over, but it should not be a problem if he is because he is not using the truck commercially. I called the PA DOT twice to ask if I needed a CDL. The first person said no. I should not have called the second time because they said yes. Like I said you need to follow VA law not PA. Mike

Mark, My bet is 6 volt with positve ground. That is what the 405 A that I got from you is. If you got the info from the mack museum on the truck it should tell you what the batteries were, but probably not the positive ground part. Michael

I think I am all fire-trucked out for now. Friendship Hook and Ladder in Boyertown called me and wants me to buy their 1986 Pierce with a 475 hp Series 60 Detroit and Allison Automatic. They had wanted $25000 for it, but got no offers so they will take what they can get. It is the last thing I need. The addition on the pole barn is already full. Don't you need another truck? Where is the bell? Mike

How much?

Congrats. I showed the pictures to my father and he really wanted it, but my mother almost divorced him when he bought his last R L. It is an R L 712 L S T. He loves it. I hope he loves my mother more. If you had not bought it there would have been some big problems in Boyertown. Mike

I spoke with Don Schumaker again. He said there are not two U685's with serial number 11692. Flexivan placed an order for 21 U685ST's. They are all on one General Sales Order so all are spec'd the same. The serial numbers go from U685ST11675-U685ST11695. They were built in Canada. Get your buddy to check his frame rail. Since his is an S he is off by more than one or two numbers. Mike

U685 is the model number. T is a single axle tractor. ST is a tandem tractor. It started at 1001 serial number and should have continued sequentially no matter what letters were after that(S, T, SX, X...) I called Don Schumaker(Curator of the Mack Museum) who said that they did not make two truck of the same model with the same serial number. They each need their own identity. If one is a U686 or some other model they could have the same numbers afterward, but not just the T versus ST. He is looking thru the records of the U685T11692 and U685ST11692 just to make sure something funny did not happen, but it should not have. I have a B66 at home, B66T1194, but I do not have the serial number plate. It is on another truck which is titled as B66T1194, but on its frame rail it a B67T. The guy who rebuilt the truck used the doors and title off the B66. I'll let you know what Don has to say. Mike

No they did not duplicate serial numbers. Either one of you have the numbers mixed up, either model or serial mumber, or someone has messed with one of the trucks. Check the serial numbers on the frame. I do not know where they are on the U model, but someone else on here will. Mike

I need a fuel pump for a Mack Lanova Diesel. I am having the motor rebuilt for my 1950 LFT and the fuel pump is locked up. It is an END 672. Please contact me if you have parts or an entire fuel pump. Thanks, Mike 610 764 8283

Actually it is the 10692 U685 made since they started at 1001 and each different model started at 1001. I don't know how many different types they made, but if there was a U686 it also started at 1001. Mike

I have a 1950 Autocar which has a very similar problem. My father thinks the steer tires/wheels are not balanced. Mine is definitely coming from the front. The steering wheel wobbles too. I don't drive it very often. I just avoid that speed. I have not found someone who can balance a 12x24 wheel. How is the seat working out? Mike

I the owner of mechanics plus bought all the trucks and sold the one B model on Ebay. He kept the other. He was going to restore it, but now they are not at the same location so I do not know what happened to it. The L and E were both scrapped. The E had a belt drive tandem. That was the first I ever saw, but have seen others since. It had its body removed long before it was scrapped. I will try to attach other pictures from Keh's Mike

Remember every model designation started with 1001: B60T1001, B61T1001, B56T1001, B66T1001, B67T1001 and so on. Some models were only built in certain years. If we have a bunch of SN 1001 we should look at the delivery dates from the Mack Museum. It is easier to have low serial numbers with fire trucks because so few were built and so many survive. I have B85F1098, 55S1039, 405A1002 and 85LS1101. The A model was the second 405 A made, but they also made a 505A, 45A, 55A and so on. I also have H613T1001. It is the first H613 of 3 made and the only one to survive. It is a 1956. Some other low serial numbers B66T1118, B66T1194, B46T1350, F715T1340 and R686T1243. I saw a mack with the serial number B61T1000 on the plate on the door. It was a fake. The serial number was ground off the frame rail. Mike