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You beat me to it Ken, I was going to ask the same thing!!! Ron

Welcome to the nuthouse! Ron

Great pictures Vinny, Thanks for posting! By the way, how'd your sister make out, did she have a good time? Ron

Yeah Vinny, I'm with Ken, bring it to Lititz! Ron

Good luck! Ron

How about the gaskets on the intercooler core, the clamps on or the small hose going to the tip turbine fan, the clamps or the hose between the intercooler manifold and rear intake manifold? Ron

Thanks Keith, I wish I could find pictures of these Stoops trucks I've been talking about before somebody thinks I'm nuts!!! (or at least nuttier than I am already!) Ron

Ken they were 15" wheels on their trailers, same size wheels we used on most of our horse trailers. They were also used on a lot of electronics vans in the moving industry. Ron

I remember the trailers you're talking about Mark, I can't remember the make for sure either but looked like as you said either Matlocks or Kentuckys. Ron

Jim, Wish I could find some pictures of these things, they were definitely different looking to say the least! I can't even find a picture of one on Hank's website! Wouldn't want to post it if I found one on there anyway, too much bullshit!!! Ron

Looks good, put some white diamonds on the bumper and you and Matt could almost be twins! As everyone else has said, have fun with it! Ron

I was wondering the same thing myself Larry? Ron

Thought a 609 was an END711 or 707. Ron

Im pretty sure the whole idea was, like Jim mentioned above, was to increase the cubes in the trailer. These Stoop trucks I am talking about didn't have 19.5"s all the way around. They didn't have 19.5"s at all. They had 17.5's on 15" dayton style drive wheels made by the Erie Wheel Co. (had to be custom made for this application) The front wheels on the tractor were the normal 20" size (10.00x20 or 11R22.5) The wheels on the trailer were the same size as the ones on the rear of the tractor which made for a very large cube box! I think, if memory serves me, the trailer did have some sort of drop frame to it maybe 2 inches? They wanted everything out of it, height wise, that they could get. Ron

It sure did that Jim. But could you imagine if you broke down, I don't think Penske or Ryder would be much help to ya!!! Ron

Great pictures Carl. Thanks for posting! Ron

Great news Ernie! Keep us posted. We'll keep you and yours in our thoughts. Ron

I couldn't remember what make they were for sure. They sure were an odd sight, first time I ever saw one on the road I took a double take! As a matter of fact the first time I saw one I was with my brother in the "ED" just south of West Chester we were heading south he was heading north so we didn't get a real good look at it. But we looked at each other and said did that thing have 15" wheels on the back of it? Then one saturday morning one of our drivers stopped in to visit at the shop and said there's one of them Stoops trucks with little wheels on it up at Truck Maintenance (a truck repair garage around the corner from our place). Needless to say our driver, my brother Tom, and I all got in my car and went to see it up close. After looking all around the back end of it and using all the familiar expletives that one would use upon seeing such a thing I noticed the Trucking for Jesus license plate on the front of it and the marker lights in grille in the shape of a cross. I made my apologies to the driver and I can remember him saying that I didn't have to apologize to him meaning that I should apologize to the man above. It had special 15" Erie spoke drive wheels with low pro 17.5" tires. the pumpkins didn't look like they were more than a couple of inches off the ground! Driver said it ran 65 or 70 M.P.H., can't imagine what the rear ratios' were!! I can't remember for sure but I think even the slack adjusters were modified? It had a fabricated frame with quite a big step behind the cab to accommodate the lowered drive train. I remember seeing the one's Schneider and Swift had too but I think they were on 17" wheels (19.5" tubeless) and were all the way around not just on the drives. Same size you see on a lot of car carriers today? Ron When are they going to put you in a "CX"?

That's so simple, sorta makes common sense!!!!! Ron

Anybody have any pictures of the old Stoops Express C.O.E., I think they were international 9670's, tractors with the 15" drive wheels. I remember they were converted by a company in Carlisle, PA They pulled almost straight frame 13'6" high trailers with 15" wheels. I believe they were used in the auto industry hauling extra large parts, frame assemblies, to assembly lines. Ron

Hopefully I'll be there! Ron

Great! Ron

I like that!!!! Ron

I think it's pretty fugly myself! Ron

Nice lookin' old fire truck with the train horns! Ron