39 Baby Mack

Sean Just grease them. If your going to replace them take them apart and take them to the truck parts house to have them matched up. just off the top of my head sounds like a 1710 series Spicer. Ron

The first 864's used PSJ or PSM Ambac pumps which were single plunger pumps with a distributing head on it like a distributor. Later ones used APE style pumps APE8VBB, this when I think the normal H.P. rating went from 255 H.P. to 270 H.P. These were multiple plunger pumps and looked like a little baby V-8 engine sitting on top of a big V-8 engine! These motors also used a later style intake manifold. I don't think, or would know how, these pumps would have ever been used on the turbocharged 864's. There just wasn't enough room, I think they were all built with the single plunger pumps. On another V-8 note the first N/A 864's had an aluminum tube that joined the two intake manifolds together, the ports for this tube were located on top of the intake manifolds in front of where the fresh air ports were. These were balancing tubes to provide for "smokeless operation" There were also two different sets of these tubes low ones and high ones! When they made the ENDT-864 they used the same early manifolds and used plates to block off the ports. Ron

I thought they called all of them two story falcons---as long as they were tall C.O.E. Fords. H, W, or Cl-9000 Ron

I don't think so. Ron

Someone told me quite awhile ago that the Mack MH cab was a cousin to the the CL-9000 Ford. I don't know for sure whether this is true or not, but if you look at the two of them there sure are a lot of similarities! I liked to know for sure who made the MH cab for Mack, never could get a straight answer. Was told of two different suppliers B.F. Goodrich and Gentech, any body know the true story? Ron

Al I heard that they were real tough to get used to driving because of the 4 point air ride. When you went into sharp turns like off and on ramps they made you feel that they were going flip over! Doesn't sound like a whole lot of fun to me! Ron

Brad I remember them being called two story falcons! Ron

Jim I bet she's thought back on that a many a time! Just makes you wonder doesn't it? Ron

Happy Birthday, hope you have a great day! Ron

Beautiful truck Timothy! How long have you had it? Ron

Mark I can remember being on the NJTPK heading to the Meadowlands from Monmouth Park the weekend after 9-11-01 I looked over to the right and could still see smoke rising from the towers. The day it happened I was driving all day, listened to the news on the radio, but never saw pictures of it till I got back home at night. The pictures on the news upset me as they did all of us but I guess I'm hardened by all the horrors and violence we see on the news and TV in general that it didn't bring tears to my eyes. That morning heading to the Meadowlands that all changed, started bawling like a baby when I saw the smoke! Ron

Glad you got it out! Ron

Here's a partial list: END-864 255-270 H.P. ENDD-864 237 H.P. ENDT-864 320 H.P. ENDT-865 325 H.P. Maxidyne ENDT-866 375 H.P. EM9-400 400 H.P. Maxidyne E9-400 400 H.P. E9-440 440 H.P. E9-500 500 H.P.

Ken I don't have any, but who knows there might be some floating around somewhere! Ron

Happy Birthday Fred, hope you have a nice day!

Al The set of pictures from Allentown, last picture on the right, the guy on the right was Philadelphia Factory Branch Manager Ed Parker. Ron

Al Great looking' trucks, thanks for posting, love white stripe tires! Ron

Mark, We used to also haul household goods, not to the extent that we hauled horses, was mostly local with an occasional long distance trip. We were agents for Greyhound Van Lines, Smyth Greyhound, and finally had an affiliation with Interstate Van Lines before going it alone. Our father also had a deal in the early seventies with North American. It seems they got a contract to haul household goods of personnel of a U.S. Naval base that they were closing down in CranstonR.I. to one in Jacksonviile Fla. I guess North American bit off a little more than they could chew and they needed a lot of help. Somehow father got hooked up with them to do some of the work. We used North American's trailers or Transport Pool trailers, they would already be loaded in Cranston, (by the Navy--nice pack jobs!) and had to be taken to Jacksonville. It was a drop and hook single man operation. This was when he bought our first 2 maxidyne powered "F" models, they were used and came from Allentown Mack. These things were something else, never driven anything like them! Hired a bunch of new drivers too, we were spread a little thin too! I can think of two drivers, in particular, that had been with us for quite sometime that were doing this. One guy was named Bill he was never in a real big hurry but was slow and steady, he had a '64 "F" model with END-864V-8 in it and a thirteen speed triplex transmission. The other guy's name was Jim, he had '68 Brockway with an 8V-71 318 Detroit in it and believe it or not a TO905 fuller, yes that's a five speed overdrive transmission! These things should have never been built this way but Brockway unfortunately would build it just about anyway you wanted it, at least they did for our father. My brothers and I, to this day say, the Mack Co. would never have built them. Anyway once you got these things launched, which wasn't always easy, they would flat out fly. You know if you have a truck that will run 78-80 miles an hour you can probably find somebody who will run it that fast. Bill and Jim used to leave Cranston, R.I. together they wouldn't stay together long before Jim would run away from Bill. Bill usually caught up with him around Dunn, N.C., the only problem was Bill was still heading south and Jim was northbound! Ron

Mike, I'm not that good of a writer, and besides that I don't know what section of the bookstore you'd find it in? Drama, Mystery, or Comedy? Ron

Happy Birthday, hope you have great day! Ron

Mark Speaking of the VT903 The 400 series Brockway numbered #176 back in the pictures of our old trucks was powered by it's predecessor the V8265. It was also a real world beater! We had five of them and they had fuller 10B11 transmissions in them (Fullers version of the duplex), the auxiliary stick was behind the main, Brockway's homemade shift tower, (opposite of an "F" model mack), was very awkward to shift into high range! Would've been easier to have your co-driver stay awake, back in the bunk, and pull it back into high range when you were ready for it! Thank God they had all that horsepower so you didn't have to shift them that much! (HA HA). These things had two other nasty habits if I recall, the fans used to like to come loose from the engine and then propel themselves into the radiators. Also the transmissions were notorious for coming loose from the flywheel housings! Needless to say they didn't keep horseshoes on them for very long! Ron

FW I've got to chime in too, what are New Jersey controls? Ron

Mark Nice looking' sleeper cab KB International with an old Fruehauf drop frame! Thank's for sharing it with us. Ron

Mark I think Amazon owes Al commission on at least two of these books!! Ron

David Pearson E-mailed a copy this picture to me in October 2009. That's where I got the information from, he stated that it was taken somewhere in Ohio in 1955. Ron