Rob Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Last Thursday I happened to be in the shop fixing the lawnmower for work and a gent stops by to "chat". Says that he has an old Mack truck that he would like me to have for my collection. Says he has talked to several people that know me where he plays cards, and all say that I am a true "collector" and will not resale anything. (This is one of the most accurate analogies of me I've ever heard). Upon asking him how old and what series of truck it is he states that he doesn't know. He does remember that it was purchased about 35 years ago, and was replaced about 10 years ago with an R model. Asking what the truck looks like, he gazes around the shop and points at a cab from a B model. I ask, "Is the truck gas, or diesel"? His reply, diesel. I'm now thinking, "He's got a B61". He then says the cab back is "caved in" and the back glass has the same contour. I then ask about the length of the hood and the series of the truck but he honestly doesn't remember. I then ask if the cab has a doghouse and the engine tilted to the side under the hood which he acknowleges. This brings a smile to his face as I say; "I think you have a B-67", to which he replied "I don't remember". He does remember the engine has a "blower" though. I then ask about a turbocharger and he acknowleges it is a turbo engine when he remembers the name Schwitzer, (sp). I went to look at this truck tonight not knowing what to expect. It turns out to be a 1962 B-67 with a 711 engine that is turbocharged, and is a factory twin screw. It has 6.34 rears on 20" spokes, and a duplex transmission. It has not physically moved from it's resting place in the barn since early 1999. The engine was not stuck, and it is full of nice green anti-freeze. Mice have reduced the interior to trash as can be expected and there is not a single item missing from the truck. I mean nothing. It is as if he shut the ignition off and never returned. He used it for many years to haul a dozer, (Caterpillar) on his lowboy trailer and the truck never slept outside. It always came home to the barn at the end of the day. It will need fender, and headlamp panel work due to rust from wheel splash on both sides, and the cab is very, sound. I'm quite sure it would roll right over and start with fresh fuel and filters. I asked about if he ever had problems with the series-parallel switch to which he replied. "This truck don't have one anymore". He had a 12V starter installed when the switch failed on him. I couldn't get him to give me a price on the thing. Just, "whatever you think it's worth to you, I want you to have it". Damn, I'd sure like to have it and want to be fair so I'm gonna think on it tonight. My first thought is I'll offer scrap price so I don't feel guilty. Hopefully I can get it running and we can both take it to Walcott next year and he'll catch the "Bug".Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 You lucky Dawg! Neat find, for sure. Rust would have a hard time get'n thru the bird poop LMAO!!! Does look very original, hope momma don't cut them off fully. Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/#findComment-40786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaddeusW Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Hmmmm. If you fear for your gonads you COULD hide it by my place when you pickup your landing gear. I wont say nuttin to momma... Scouts honor! Quote -Thad What America needs is less bull and more Bulldog! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/#findComment-40792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted September 23, 2009 Author Share Posted September 23, 2009 Hmmmm. If you fear for your gonads you COULD hide it by my place when you pickup your landing gear. I wont say nuttin to momma... Scouts honor!I trust you there buddy!!Any chance you will be at Lititz? I will and would like to meet a few of you folks.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/#findComment-40798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted September 23, 2009 Author Share Posted September 23, 2009 You lucky Dawg! Neat find, for sure. Rust would have a hard time get'n thru the bird poop LMAO!!! Does look very original, hope momma don't cut them off fully.Yeah, it had a healthy insulating layer going on there. It was dry too.....The only appreciable rust was the headlamp, and fender panel about centerline of the headlamp bulbs to the bottom where the two bolt together in the wheelhouse. I would need to make both mating surfaces to both panels. Not many dents in the cab sheetmetal and the aluminum hood is perfect without cracks or thinning. All the badging is intact also. Although I didn't look really close, the gauge bezels do not appear to be rusty either. I fear Momma on this one. She made me promise her the Mack collecting was done with what I have. Project R-12 is a real stretch. I'm afraid when she finds out I'll be a different man singing saprano.......Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/#findComment-40799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Don't worry-this is an offer even Momma couldn't refuse. I'm sure she'll be happy for you to have it.Good story too,way better than telling her you actually won it in a card game. Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/#findComment-40802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaddeusW Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 I trust you there buddy!!Any chance you will be at Lititz? I will and would like to meet a few of you folks.RobI should be there. I never went to Lititz yet so I have been planning to go this year. If you are going for sure let me know, I can bring you the landing gear. Quote -Thad What America needs is less bull and more Bulldog! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/#findComment-40848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Rider Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Just goes to show that there are still barn finds out there. You don't need your goods as they are just for decoration at this time. I think your life span is affected though. Think about bailing the Titanic with a coffee cup? Quote #1 on A-model registryIf I drink because of work, why can't I drink at work? Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/#findComment-40857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRebel Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Dammit. How's anyone else s'posed ta get an old Mack when Rob's hoarding 'em? Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/#findComment-40876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted September 24, 2009 Author Share Posted September 24, 2009 Dammit. How's anyone else s'posed ta get an old Mack when Rob's hoarding 'em? The last couple have found me. I didn't know they existed until the former owner's showed up wanting to "give" the trucks to me.I don't have all the old Macks, just a few. Keep in mind, you have something to scratch in the morning!!!Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/#findComment-40878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Dang-it, And just think.....everytime I went into a barn it was always the farmers daughter in their instead of a B model Mack. Rob, i'll give you one of mine if you loose your's by momma. Mine have always been too big and itched all tha time. Ya might remember how bad that was. mike Good-nite Rob.....I got a barn I need to visit. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/#findComment-40887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted November 1, 2009 Author Share Posted November 1, 2009 Had to "break down" and take the truck off his hands yesterday. Gentleman would not accept any money and once again said both, "you need that truck" and, "I want you to have it". What's a guy to do? I'll make a spot in the shop and bring it home early next week. Don't want to hook up any electrical juice until I get a look at the wiring due to the mice. Miraculously, the truck does not "stink" like mouse droppings at all, just musty. It looks a lot better rinsed off with a hose!!Think I'll stay with Mack green on this one, but may black the fenders. We'll see.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/#findComment-42770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK Trucking Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Wow Rob, you really lucked out on that deal!I see that when the turbo kit was installed on that 711 the did away with the equal length intake system and put the old type aluminum 673 intake manifold on it.Nice truck. You gonna take out the duplex and jam a quad box in it?. Quote "If You Can't Shift It Smoothly, You Shouldn't Be Driving It" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/#findComment-42771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted November 1, 2009 Author Share Posted November 1, 2009 I'm glad to have it wrapped up so to speak. Unbeknownst to me I had fixed his son's Caravan a couple years ago, (deer hit) and let the owner make payments on his insurance deductable, (just before Christmas) and had changed a flat tire alongside the road for his daughter without charge late at night. I did not realize the two had any kind of relationship, nor how some seemingly simple actions could reap such rewards. My past performances meant something to them, and they have reciprocated with something that holds meaning to me, (no matter how painful my immediate future may be). I've not driven anything on the road with a duplex transmission so don't really have any sort of plans as of yet. One thing I find puzzling is that he said the truck would run right at 65mph on flat road empty. The rears have 6.34 gears and my 64 B-61 with a TRQ-7220 will only run 57 on the governor so something can't be right. Both trucks are on 10.00X20 rubber too. If the quad is good in that truck I most likely will replace the duplex as I like the shift pattern and sound out the pipe. This 711 does have one of those hydraulic governors on the pump but he said it always started right up without a lot of cranking. All ten tires on this thing are recaps and are many years old. Although they all hold air, I'll replace them with ready spares from the shop "stock". Some of the caps are "rolling" at the edges so no way to know how far they would run before blowing. I'm going to trailer it home the beginning of the week. With the oil pump in the front of the trans and having set so long I really don't want to damage any internals. All eight of my heavy jack stands are holding projects at this time so I guess I'll have to work on the floor, (shame). Then again, good reason to get more stands don't ya think?I'll keep you posted. He did finally say that he would be interested in attending a few shows. Figure we'll make Walcott with this one next year and if I get a trailer bought, haul Momma's A-40 on the same trip. The plans are to actually use this one! Should all go according to plan I'll break the 64 B-61 apart for parts spares as the truck is in very poor condition referring to sheet metal and frame. I had also noticed the intake manifold was the same as my 58 B-61 that is natural aspirated. This truck being a 1962; I was not aware the equal length manifolds were in use yet. The 64 B-61 uses the equal length manifolds. I don't know what the year was of their introduction.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/#findComment-42772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack4ever Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 hey rob. congratulations on the b. it`s a good looking truck.it will fit wright in your collection. leon (mack4ever) Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/#findComment-42774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ditchkus Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Rob Good Deal you must really be Rob Barker on the price is right.Not a lot of B- Models with turbos let alone a B-67. There was one at our ATCA Show Endless Mountains a few years ago. They really did their homework to fit that turbo in there. Joe Ditchkus. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/#findComment-42775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK Trucking Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 They really did their homework to fit that turbo in there. The one that I had utilized the same exhaust manifold, and therefore the same turbo location, as the ENDT 673 engines and the ENDT 675's up through the 1972 model year.. Quote "If You Can't Shift It Smoothly, You Shouldn't Be Driving It" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/#findComment-42776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 ...Think I'll stay with Mack green on this one, but may black the fenders. We'll see.RobI colored it on the screen with my crayolas just to see- I like it!That's not original Mack green of course, that crayon was broken.And I went over the lines on the hood, so I just made it longer. Never could get the hang of that "stay inside the lines" coloring thing. Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/#findComment-42781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK Trucking Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 I colored it on the screen with my crayolas just to see- I like it!That's not original Mack green of course, that crayon was broken.And I went over the lines on the hood, so I just made it longer. Never could get the hang of that "stay inside the lines" coloring thing.Now you gotta do the hubs red and make it a "Richard Morris" truck:. Quote "If You Can't Shift It Smoothly, You Shouldn't Be Driving It" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/#findComment-42783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Don't worry-this is an offer even Momma couldn't refuse. I'm sure she'll be happy for you to have it.Good story too,way better than telling her you actually won it in a card game. Tom, I understood he was playing strip poker at some farmers home when the prize was an old mack. She was nice enough to really give it to him for a price....... ya think Rob would have wanted something else. mike Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/#findComment-42816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Tom, I understood he was playing strip poker at some farmers home when the prize was an old mack. She was nice enough to really give it to him for a price....... ya think Rob would have wanted something else. mike Yeah, they were. I talked to the previous owner and he said he folded holding 4 kings and told Rob just to take the truck, just so there wouldn't be any chance of seeing Rob in his birthday suit. Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/#findComment-42820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted November 2, 2009 Author Share Posted November 2, 2009 Yeah, they were. I talked to the previous owner and he said he folded holding 4 kings and told Rob just to take the truck, just so there wouldn't be any chance of seeing Rob in his birthday suit.Ya'll want to see me in my "birthday suit"? I'll capture some "stills" from me an Momma's last porno film, (In thru the out door) and post them for your viewing pleasure.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/#findComment-42821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Ya'll want to see me in my "birthday suit"? I'll capture some "stills" from me an Momma's last porno film, (In thru the out door) and post them for your viewing pleasure.RobNO, NO...that's OK. Thanks though. Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/#findComment-42822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 NO, NO...that's OK. Thanks though.You know me. Always eager to oblige.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/#findComment-42836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 NO, NO...that's OK. Thanks though. Yeah, we don't want to do anymore painting and panting this week. Hard on the ole heart. mike Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/#findComment-42870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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