hatcity Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 cold too-you forgot coldNow you mention the Mrs. Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/page/3/#findComment-44559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted December 7, 2009 Author Share Posted December 7, 2009 Well, she's in for the winter. I gave the electrical system a good "once over" and did not see anything wrong other than being old. After installing a battery it's discovered every single light in this thing works as it should! I ain't never seen that before, even when they were much newer!!I'm gonna pick up a couple group 31 series batteries and see if she'll fire off but first need to replace the equalizing line between the fuel tanks as it is busted/rotten in two. Both tanks are completely empty. Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/page/3/#findComment-44747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted December 8, 2009 Author Share Posted December 8, 2009 Didn't realize but each tank has a shutoff valve on it under the caked on dirt and grease. I shut the tank valve off on the driver's side, dumped five gallons of fuel into it and started working the hand primer. To my surprise, the pumped right up to a nice hard resistance. I've not picked batteries up yet so won't attempt to start until tomorrow at the earliest. You have to remove the fender access panel to even see the injection pump on the engine and like Glenn said the fender would probably have to come off to even entertain changing the air compressor. I've never seen an engine so tightly crammed into a heavy truck like this.Get a look at the clearance to the cab behind the turbocharger. There are also no rubber insolators, (bushings) left on the passenger side of the truck for the transmission to frame mounts. The bolts can be shaken by hand as the rubber has fallen away. That is why there is a little wear on the turbin housing of the turbocharger from rubbing on the fender closing panel. Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/page/3/#findComment-44765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
B61TENDT711 Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Nice rig. . .Mike Quote 1953 Studebaker M275. Reo 331 I-6, Spicer 5spd-DD, 6.72 Gears, 11.00R20H tires.1959 Mack B61T. Mack END+T 711 I-6, 2 stick 15spd-OD, 6.38 Gears, 12.00-24J tires.1962 GMC K4500. GMC 379M-V6, SM420-4spd-DD, 5.13 Gears, 8-19.5G tires.1969 AMC AMX. AMC 390 Crossram, borgwarner T-10 4spd, 4.44 Gears, G60-14s Front N50-15s Rear.1975 Mack DM600. 300 Mack 6spd 4.17 gears 445/65R22.5 front n 12.00R20 rear.1976 Arctic Cat Jag2000. 275cc twin, belt drive, steal grips.1977 Ford F350. 351M V-8, 4spd-DD, 4.56 Gears, 245/70R19.5G tires.1988 AMC Jeep MJ. 2.5L I-4, 4spd-DD, 4.10 Gears 215/70R15 front 225/70R15 rear.1992 Trans AM GTA. 406SBC TBI, 4L60E, 3.73 Gears, 245/50R16 front 295/50R16 Rear.1995 GMC K2500 6.5-T, 4L80E, 4.10 gears 7.50-16D tires. 4.56 Gears coming soon.2007 Honda Rubicon 500cc Single, 5spd fluid drive trans, 27x10-12 Front 27x12-12 Rear.Still in search of M52 5 ton tractor, M123A1C 10 ton tractor Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/page/3/#findComment-44774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted December 8, 2009 Author Share Posted December 8, 2009 Well curiosity got the best of me tonight so I went and "robbed" the batteries out of my "yella dog" out back for a try to start. No such luck before cranking them down. I had started "yella dog" early in the afternoon and had cranked quite some time because it is cold out and the truck wasn't plugged in. Being a generator system and not run above idle, the batteries did not recharge. The B-67 does crank over and smells like stale diesel out the pipe. I think it will run once the batteries are up enough to spin the engine with any kind of speed. I did stick them, and the electrolyte is down to 1.15@ 45 degrees so they are basically flat. The truck has an alternator, is negative ground, and has a 40MT starter installed. I didn't know any of this when the truck was given to me, just that the series/parallel switch had been done away with. What is a shame is that the battery cables are #2 and that is not heavy enough. I will replace them with #4/0 and be done with it. These batteries are known, and tested good last week but I've started that yellow truck several times and not allowing it to replenish. Knowing that this truck has the hydraulic governor setup on it I'm assuming that the full flow oil filter would have to fill itself before the engine can make oil pressure, then move the fuel rack inside the injection pump to start. So far I can't get the engine to make any oil pressure on the gauge so really didn't plan for it to start but I'm getting anxious......I looked at the rear axle carriers and the front one is stamped 5.77 ratio, the rear is stamped 6.34. Something is not right here but I can understand the truck running 65mph with 5.77's in the rear but not 6.34's. My 64 B-61 has 6.34 rears, double over quadraplex, and will only run 57mph on the governor at 2150. I'm assuming the original carrier went bad and was ratioed with 5.77's but not sure. This truck has a nine speed overgear. I did get both doors freed up tonight and can now open and close them easily. Need to work on the windows next. None are broken, or cracked and work, but are very stiff. Need to replace the driver's door handle as the square rod that operates the mechanisim, (latch) is twisted as I can see it. I even pulled the heater switch on the heater motor runs!!The truck is not but I'm getting cranked!!Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/page/3/#findComment-44781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
B61TENDT711 Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 can they run 1 axle at a time ? Maybe th 6.34 is for low end towing then the flipped over to the 5.77's for the highway . . .I would make sure that both gears are matching before driving it, I'm guessing they are as it roll's unless like i said you separate the 2 rear's. . .Mike Quote 1953 Studebaker M275. Reo 331 I-6, Spicer 5spd-DD, 6.72 Gears, 11.00R20H tires.1959 Mack B61T. Mack END+T 711 I-6, 2 stick 15spd-OD, 6.38 Gears, 12.00-24J tires.1962 GMC K4500. GMC 379M-V6, SM420-4spd-DD, 5.13 Gears, 8-19.5G tires.1969 AMC AMX. AMC 390 Crossram, borgwarner T-10 4spd, 4.44 Gears, G60-14s Front N50-15s Rear.1975 Mack DM600. 300 Mack 6spd 4.17 gears 445/65R22.5 front n 12.00R20 rear.1976 Arctic Cat Jag2000. 275cc twin, belt drive, steal grips.1977 Ford F350. 351M V-8, 4spd-DD, 4.56 Gears, 245/70R19.5G tires.1988 AMC Jeep MJ. 2.5L I-4, 4spd-DD, 4.10 Gears 215/70R15 front 225/70R15 rear.1992 Trans AM GTA. 406SBC TBI, 4L60E, 3.73 Gears, 245/50R16 front 295/50R16 Rear.1995 GMC K2500 6.5-T, 4L80E, 4.10 gears 7.50-16D tires. 4.56 Gears coming soon.2007 Honda Rubicon 500cc Single, 5spd fluid drive trans, 27x10-12 Front 27x12-12 Rear.Still in search of M52 5 ton tractor, M123A1C 10 ton tractor Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/page/3/#findComment-44820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted December 8, 2009 Author Share Posted December 8, 2009 can they run 1 axle at a time ? Maybe th 6.34 is for low end towing then the flipped over to the 5.77's for the highway . . .I would make sure that both gears are matching before driving it, I'm guessing they are as it roll's unless like i said you separate the 2 rear's. . .MikeI'm pretty sure the rear carrier is a reman unit from many years ago that probably had a sticker denoting the ratio installed, and has fallen off/deteriorated. Both housings have been in the truck for many years and have equal amounts of grime on them. There is no ways to declutch, or shift one drive axle in or out at will with this setup as it is standard Mack camelback and drive axles all the way.I'd lay odd on the 5.77 ratio being correct due to the former owners speaking of the road speed it will run.Hope to make some black smoke with it tonight.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/page/3/#findComment-44821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted December 8, 2009 Author Share Posted December 8, 2009 Prefilled the oil filter with about a gallon of 30wt. oil and she cranked for about 30-40 seconds, then roared to life. Took a while for the hydraulic governor to stabilize smoothing near 650 rpm idle speed. Truck is not making air at this time and that can be another chapter. I'm going to drain all the fluids, change/clean all filters and replenish. Oil pressure gauge sure fooled me as it is not connected so I was nervous at first. To ensure I had oil pressure I loosened the plug at the top of the oil filter and was going to slightly unscrew it until I had engine oil get past the threads, but to my surprise when the engine is running, I couldn't move the plug by hand. Shut the engine down and it's a two finger operation. I surmise it has good pressure...... I've got a couple of minor wrecks to repair so this will need to go on the back burner for a few days. Just too damned hard to leave something new alone sometimes.........Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/page/3/#findComment-44829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
B61TENDT711 Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Ya i'm sure 5.77's n 10.00-20's ? is about the same as my 12.00-24's n 6.38's . . . 15th gear 65mph@2,000rpm The 711 with the turbo is a brute of a vintage Diesel 30wt ? I been running 60wt synthetic in my 711+T Diesel . . .Mike Quote 1953 Studebaker M275. Reo 331 I-6, Spicer 5spd-DD, 6.72 Gears, 11.00R20H tires.1959 Mack B61T. Mack END+T 711 I-6, 2 stick 15spd-OD, 6.38 Gears, 12.00-24J tires.1962 GMC K4500. GMC 379M-V6, SM420-4spd-DD, 5.13 Gears, 8-19.5G tires.1969 AMC AMX. AMC 390 Crossram, borgwarner T-10 4spd, 4.44 Gears, G60-14s Front N50-15s Rear.1975 Mack DM600. 300 Mack 6spd 4.17 gears 445/65R22.5 front n 12.00R20 rear.1976 Arctic Cat Jag2000. 275cc twin, belt drive, steal grips.1977 Ford F350. 351M V-8, 4spd-DD, 4.56 Gears, 245/70R19.5G tires.1988 AMC Jeep MJ. 2.5L I-4, 4spd-DD, 4.10 Gears 215/70R15 front 225/70R15 rear.1992 Trans AM GTA. 406SBC TBI, 4L60E, 3.73 Gears, 245/50R16 front 295/50R16 Rear.1995 GMC K2500 6.5-T, 4L80E, 4.10 gears 7.50-16D tires. 4.56 Gears coming soon.2007 Honda Rubicon 500cc Single, 5spd fluid drive trans, 27x10-12 Front 27x12-12 Rear.Still in search of M52 5 ton tractor, M123A1C 10 ton tractor Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/page/3/#findComment-44832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted December 8, 2009 Author Share Posted December 8, 2009 Ya i'm sure 5.77's n 10.00-20's ? is about the same as my 12.00-24's n 6.38's . . . 15th gear 65mph@2,000rpm The 711 with the turbo is a brute of a vintage Diesel 30wt ? I been running 60wt synthetic in my 711+T Diesel . . .MikeI run straight 30 in all the old engines. I just cracked a new barrel tonight to fill the filter on this truck. Think I still have two new ones yet so I'm set for a while.Great to hear this thing run.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/page/3/#findComment-44833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
B61TENDT711 Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Nothing makes you smile like the sound of an old war horse's first fire !I know the feeling is a . .. I'm not sure how to explain or say it but its a moment for sure . . .Mike Quote 1953 Studebaker M275. Reo 331 I-6, Spicer 5spd-DD, 6.72 Gears, 11.00R20H tires.1959 Mack B61T. Mack END+T 711 I-6, 2 stick 15spd-OD, 6.38 Gears, 12.00-24J tires.1962 GMC K4500. GMC 379M-V6, SM420-4spd-DD, 5.13 Gears, 8-19.5G tires.1969 AMC AMX. AMC 390 Crossram, borgwarner T-10 4spd, 4.44 Gears, G60-14s Front N50-15s Rear.1975 Mack DM600. 300 Mack 6spd 4.17 gears 445/65R22.5 front n 12.00R20 rear.1976 Arctic Cat Jag2000. 275cc twin, belt drive, steal grips.1977 Ford F350. 351M V-8, 4spd-DD, 4.56 Gears, 245/70R19.5G tires.1988 AMC Jeep MJ. 2.5L I-4, 4spd-DD, 4.10 Gears 215/70R15 front 225/70R15 rear.1992 Trans AM GTA. 406SBC TBI, 4L60E, 3.73 Gears, 245/50R16 front 295/50R16 Rear.1995 GMC K2500 6.5-T, 4L80E, 4.10 gears 7.50-16D tires. 4.56 Gears coming soon.2007 Honda Rubicon 500cc Single, 5spd fluid drive trans, 27x10-12 Front 27x12-12 Rear.Still in search of M52 5 ton tractor, M123A1C 10 ton tractor Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/10771-i-guess-momma-is-gonna-get-whats-left-of-my-nuts/page/3/#findComment-44835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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