kevin mccune Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 Can someone please give me the part number for a charge air cooler to fit a 86 or so R-model in the 300HP range, thanks-Kevin Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1115-charge-air-cooler/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 KEVIN If your talking about the tip turbine engines,I think there were 3 diffrent HP ratings with the tip turbine air charge cooled engines285/315/ and 350 rateings?? not shure if the part numbers vary between HP ratings? my vin # is RS786LST32474 and I have the 285HP tip turbine, you should be able to find a part number at your local Mack dealer with this vin number.Trent Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1115-charge-air-cooler/#findComment-5790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin mccune Posted May 17, 2006 Author Share Posted May 17, 2006 KEVIN If your talking about the tip turbine engines,I think there were 3 diffrent HP ratings with the tip turbine air charge cooled engines285/315/ and 350 rateings?? not shure if the part numbers vary between HP ratings? my vin # is RS786LST32474 and I have the 285HP tip turbine, you should be able to find a part number at your local Mack dealer with this vin number.TrentThanks Trent, but I really would like to convert to air to air-however that vin number has given me an idea.All I have to do is open the door on a truck set up like I want it & get the the last 6 digits( Macks are great) nothing wrong with tip turbine power, we have one that does great-but getting hard to find these setups. Thanks again -Kevin Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1115-charge-air-cooler/#findComment-5796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b61mack Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Thanks Trent, but I really would like to convert to air to air-however that vin number has given me an idea.All I have to do is open the door on a truck set up like I want it & get the the last 6 digits( Macks are great) nothing wrong with tip turbine power, we have one that does great-but getting hard to find these setups. Thanks again -Kevin You might look to see if you have enough room in front, it think the charge air cooler hood might be 2-3" longer, maybe someone on the site might know. Ron Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1115-charge-air-cooler/#findComment-5799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Good point Ron. I cant fit a intercooler from a 4V 300 between the grill and the Radiator on my truck. I have about 2 1/2 inches and I need 3 1/3 to make one fit Trent Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1115-charge-air-cooler/#findComment-5800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin mccune Posted May 18, 2006 Author Share Posted May 18, 2006 Good point Ron. I cant fit a intercooler from a 4V 300 between the grill and the Radiator on my truck. I have about 2 1/2 inches and I need 3 1/3 to make one fit Trentthanks Trent,I believe this thing has plenty of room(think it was intended or set up for the optional 4valve engine) how come the 4 valve engines I've been around dont have a pyrometer?-Kevin Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1115-charge-air-cooler/#findComment-5801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick harper Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 the pryometer has always been a option when a new truck was ordered. can be installed rather easy. take the pipe plug off the turbo pipe. install the thermocoupler, run the wires to the gauge in dash. use existing 2" hole in dash or cut out a hole. do not cut the long lead wires. wrap up the excess and put a tie strap around and secure. if wires are cut, the gauge will not read right. mack dealers sell a complete kit. im going on memory that part # was 1MT19320A. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1115-charge-air-cooler/#findComment-5802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b61mack Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 thanks Trent,I believe this thing has plenty of room(think it was intended or set up for the optional 4valve engine) how come the 4 valve engines I've been around dont have a pyrometer?-KevinKevin, another thing do you have a radiator that goes down to the bumper, i think the charge air cooler takes a bigger radiator could make your engine over heat. Ron Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1115-charge-air-cooler/#findComment-5804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin mccune Posted May 20, 2006 Author Share Posted May 20, 2006 Kevin, another thing do you have a radiator that goes down to the bumper, i think the charge air cooler takes a bigger radiator could make your engine over heat. RonThanks Rick&Ron-something to consider, the laws of thermodynamics teach us that the heat that is used to spin the turbo-will heat the compressed air& it would sort of like be blowing exhaust heat into the main heat exchanger-probaly would have to upsize radiator-Kevin Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1115-charge-air-cooler/#findComment-5817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogbred Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Good point Ron. I cant fit a intercooler from a 4V 300 between the grill and the Radiator on my truck. I have about 2 1/2 inches and I need 3 1/3 to make one fit TrentCheck on the spacing between the fan and your radiator, sometimes on the tip turbine motor you can make up that difference in the fan spacer, we ended up doing that on mine trent with the new E7 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1115-charge-air-cooler/#findComment-5828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Check on the spacing between the fan and your radiator, sometimes on the tip turbine motor you can make up that difference in the fan spacer, we ended up doing that on mine trent with the new E7Good thought John. I installed the fan clutch last year and I dont recall if it had a spacer or not?. The fan was close to the rad. I cant rember if the hood or rad had a slide adjustment but I know it was all the way back giving me all the space that is offered with OEM parts. What Intercooler did you use? I checked the thickness of a 4v 300 intercooler and It was about 3 1/2 thick Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1115-charge-air-cooler/#findComment-5832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin mccune Posted May 21, 2006 Author Share Posted May 21, 2006 Good thought John. I installed the fan clutch last year and I dont recall if it had a spacer or not?. The fan was close to the rad. I cant rember if the hood or rad had a slide adjustment but I know it was all the way back giving me all the space that is offered with OEM parts. What Intercooler did you use? I checked the thickness of a 4v 300 intercooler and It was about 3 1/2 thickGuys can you give me some part numbers-on my R-I have 5 inches or better, do you use same turbo? and what about injector nozzles? I would like to get the torque and power up on the old 237 a bit. The truck weighs 25000 lbs empty and on 9% grades even medium diesels are a menace- Kevin Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1115-charge-air-cooler/#findComment-5834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
87valueliner Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 The charge air cooler on my 87 model with a 4v 350 is 3md 53b according to the book. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1115-charge-air-cooler/#findComment-5837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin mccune Posted May 22, 2006 Author Share Posted May 22, 2006 The charge air cooler on my 87 model with a 4v 350 is 3md 53b according to the book.Thank you Valueliner- a question though- did the Valueliners have the the L series motors?(I used to drive 88 R Models with PL blocked off-EM6-300 and they would outdo the E7-300 97 model stock one I drove-Kevin Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1115-charge-air-cooler/#findComment-5840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
87valueliner Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Mine came new with the regular E6-350, not the E6-350L Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1115-charge-air-cooler/#findComment-5857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin mccune Posted May 24, 2006 Author Share Posted May 24, 2006 Mine came new with the regular E6-350, not the E6-350L10-4,if you are interested go to the Cat Truck engine site and compare the old Maxidynes to the the new C11's-Mack was ahead of its day-Kevin Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1115-charge-air-cooler/#findComment-5863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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