Yoos Brothers Construction Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 I'm just curious about the B model BCR conversions. I've seen a couple pictures that's it. What B models did they make them for. For instance did they make it for B-75's, B-67's,etc. Any information you might have would be a great help. Pictures always help to. Thanks. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11310-does-any-body-have-any-info-on-the-bcr-conversions/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Had fellow in local ATHS chapter that had one. Don't know all the specifics of them and how they were done(what models available). I would bet you could probably get it for any variation, as the cab and hood are a lot bigger and have plenty room for any powerplant. Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11310-does-any-body-have-any-info-on-the-bcr-conversions/#findComment-42974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaddeusW Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Okay, What the heck is a BCR? A B model that was transplanted to a R chassis? Quote -Thad What America needs is less bull and more Bulldog! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11310-does-any-body-have-any-info-on-the-bcr-conversions/#findComment-42978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Okay, What the heck is a BCR? A B model that was transplanted to a R chassis?A configured R model cab, and hood to fit a B model running gear and chassis.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11310-does-any-body-have-any-info-on-the-bcr-conversions/#findComment-42980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajt3138 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 A configured R model cab, and hood to fit a B model running gear and chassis.Robis there some advantage to doing this? please explain the logic or need for a conversion like this. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11310-does-any-body-have-any-info-on-the-bcr-conversions/#findComment-42981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveigou Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 (edited) is there some advantage to doing this? please explain the logic or need for a conversion like this. A fleet owner could convert his "obsolete" B models to state-of-the-art current looking R models for a fraction of the cost of a new R model!!!Dave Edited November 5, 2009 by daveigou Quote See my Flickr photostream page http://www.flickr.com/photos/96692978@N05/ Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11310-does-any-body-have-any-info-on-the-bcr-conversions/#findComment-42982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Maney Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 The BCR was mainly and specifically to offer a sheetmetal refresh to the existing B-model. The tilting hood was a big selling point, new modern cab and more than anything, replacing what may have been a rusting out B with a fresh fiberglass hood and new cab. I have some brochures I will post when I get a chance. I have more ads about the BCR than anything. I was always facinated by the BCR kit, my dad told me stories about getting one of the first kits offered and putting it together. It was a neat idea, I don't think anyone would think of doing it today. Take an R-model and swap out a set-forward CH cab & hood on it, this is possible, the R-chassis would outlast any of the new Mack stuff. Maybe I should call marketing... Quote Interested in Old Trucks? Check out: www.antiquetruckclubofamerica.org Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11310-does-any-body-have-any-info-on-the-bcr-conversions/#findComment-42985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
B61TENDT711 Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 I think today it would be more fitting to drop a B-model body onto an R-model chassie n power plant. . .Vintage B look Modern R power and road speed. . .Mike Quote 1953 Studebaker M275. Reo 331 I-6, Spicer 5spd-DD, 6.72 Gears, 11.00R20H tires.1959 Mack B61T. Mack END+T 711 I-6, 2 stick 15spd-OD, 6.38 Gears, 12.00-24J tires.1962 GMC K4500. GMC 379M-V6, SM420-4spd-DD, 5.13 Gears, 8-19.5G tires.1969 AMC AMX. AMC 390 Crossram, borgwarner T-10 4spd, 4.44 Gears, G60-14s Front N50-15s Rear.1975 Mack DM600. 300 Mack 6spd 4.17 gears 445/65R22.5 front n 12.00R20 rear.1976 Arctic Cat Jag2000. 275cc twin, belt drive, steal grips.1977 Ford F350. 351M V-8, 4spd-DD, 4.56 Gears, 245/70R19.5G tires.1988 AMC Jeep MJ. 2.5L I-4, 4spd-DD, 4.10 Gears 215/70R15 front 225/70R15 rear.1992 Trans AM GTA. 406SBC TBI, 4L60E, 3.73 Gears, 245/50R16 front 295/50R16 Rear.1995 GMC K2500 6.5-T, 4L80E, 4.10 gears 7.50-16D tires. 4.56 Gears coming soon.2007 Honda Rubicon 500cc Single, 5spd fluid drive trans, 27x10-12 Front 27x12-12 Rear.Still in search of M52 5 ton tractor, M123A1C 10 ton tractor Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11310-does-any-body-have-any-info-on-the-bcr-conversions/#findComment-42988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 The company that I drove for back in the '60's had quite a few in the fleet and they were usually the result of a wreck. We still drove the old Bs and Cs if they were only rusty but they sure made a nice tractor after a wreck. It would feel like a brand new truck. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11310-does-any-body-have-any-info-on-the-bcr-conversions/#findComment-42990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
B61TENDT711 Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 a truck ain't a truck till its got some dent's scratches and some rust. . .Mike Quote 1953 Studebaker M275. Reo 331 I-6, Spicer 5spd-DD, 6.72 Gears, 11.00R20H tires.1959 Mack B61T. Mack END+T 711 I-6, 2 stick 15spd-OD, 6.38 Gears, 12.00-24J tires.1962 GMC K4500. GMC 379M-V6, SM420-4spd-DD, 5.13 Gears, 8-19.5G tires.1969 AMC AMX. AMC 390 Crossram, borgwarner T-10 4spd, 4.44 Gears, G60-14s Front N50-15s Rear.1975 Mack DM600. 300 Mack 6spd 4.17 gears 445/65R22.5 front n 12.00R20 rear.1976 Arctic Cat Jag2000. 275cc twin, belt drive, steal grips.1977 Ford F350. 351M V-8, 4spd-DD, 4.56 Gears, 245/70R19.5G tires.1988 AMC Jeep MJ. 2.5L I-4, 4spd-DD, 4.10 Gears 215/70R15 front 225/70R15 rear.1992 Trans AM GTA. 406SBC TBI, 4L60E, 3.73 Gears, 245/50R16 front 295/50R16 Rear.1995 GMC K2500 6.5-T, 4L80E, 4.10 gears 7.50-16D tires. 4.56 Gears coming soon.2007 Honda Rubicon 500cc Single, 5spd fluid drive trans, 27x10-12 Front 27x12-12 Rear.Still in search of M52 5 ton tractor, M123A1C 10 ton tractor Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11310-does-any-body-have-any-info-on-the-bcr-conversions/#findComment-42993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 I think today it would be more fitting to drop a B-model body onto an R-model chassie n power plant. . .Vintage B look Modern R power and road speed. . .MikeLots of guys did this. Only problem, cab room. Not condusive to comfort, so not a real popular thing to do for a daily working truck.Personally I can pick one of these conversion very easily, as the front wheels stick out of the fenders due to the wider axle. Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11310-does-any-body-have-any-info-on-the-bcr-conversions/#findComment-43052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
B61TENDT711 Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 eo i have noticed those a few guy tweaked around with some floats and wide rims with custom off set's to sorta correct the issue but but all in all you can still tell. . .Mike Quote 1953 Studebaker M275. Reo 331 I-6, Spicer 5spd-DD, 6.72 Gears, 11.00R20H tires.1959 Mack B61T. Mack END+T 711 I-6, 2 stick 15spd-OD, 6.38 Gears, 12.00-24J tires.1962 GMC K4500. GMC 379M-V6, SM420-4spd-DD, 5.13 Gears, 8-19.5G tires.1969 AMC AMX. AMC 390 Crossram, borgwarner T-10 4spd, 4.44 Gears, G60-14s Front N50-15s Rear.1975 Mack DM600. 300 Mack 6spd 4.17 gears 445/65R22.5 front n 12.00R20 rear.1976 Arctic Cat Jag2000. 275cc twin, belt drive, steal grips.1977 Ford F350. 351M V-8, 4spd-DD, 4.56 Gears, 245/70R19.5G tires.1988 AMC Jeep MJ. 2.5L I-4, 4spd-DD, 4.10 Gears 215/70R15 front 225/70R15 rear.1992 Trans AM GTA. 406SBC TBI, 4L60E, 3.73 Gears, 245/50R16 front 295/50R16 Rear.1995 GMC K2500 6.5-T, 4L80E, 4.10 gears 7.50-16D tires. 4.56 Gears coming soon.2007 Honda Rubicon 500cc Single, 5spd fluid drive trans, 27x10-12 Front 27x12-12 Rear.Still in search of M52 5 ton tractor, M123A1C 10 ton tractor Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11310-does-any-body-have-any-info-on-the-bcr-conversions/#findComment-43057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK Trucking Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 The BCR was mainly and specifically to offer a sheetmetal refresh to the existing B-model. The tilting hood was a big selling point, new modern cab and more than anything, replacing what may have been a rusting out B with a fresh fiberglass hood and new cab. I have some brochures I will post when I get a chance. I have more ads about the BCR than anything. I was always facinated by the BCR kit, my dad told me stories about getting one of the first kits offered and putting it together. It was a neat idea, I don't think anyone would think of doing it today. Take an R-model and swap out a set-forward CH cab & hood on it, this is possible, the R-chassis would outlast any of the new Mack stuff. Maybe I should call marketing...Don't waste your time.The V*lv* marketing people wouldn't understand what you're talking about.. Quote "If You Can't Shift It Smoothly, You Shouldn't Be Driving It" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11310-does-any-body-have-any-info-on-the-bcr-conversions/#findComment-43065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK Trucking Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 Lots of guys did this. Only problem, cab room. Not condusive to comfort, so not a real popular thing to do for a daily working truck.Personally I can pick one of these conversion very easily, as the front wheels stick out of the fenders due to the wider axle.Also, if you look in the cab, the BCR clutch pedal comes up thru the floor, like a B model, instead of hanging from under the dash like a true R model.. Quote "If You Can't Shift It Smoothly, You Shouldn't Be Driving It" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11310-does-any-body-have-any-info-on-the-bcr-conversions/#findComment-43066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
B61TENDT711 Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 I see, i guess in the time frame it was used it was a very neat trick. . .But yea i don't see any body dropping a newer body on an older these days, everybody seems to run what they got as it was.Mike Quote 1953 Studebaker M275. Reo 331 I-6, Spicer 5spd-DD, 6.72 Gears, 11.00R20H tires.1959 Mack B61T. Mack END+T 711 I-6, 2 stick 15spd-OD, 6.38 Gears, 12.00-24J tires.1962 GMC K4500. GMC 379M-V6, SM420-4spd-DD, 5.13 Gears, 8-19.5G tires.1969 AMC AMX. AMC 390 Crossram, borgwarner T-10 4spd, 4.44 Gears, G60-14s Front N50-15s Rear.1975 Mack DM600. 300 Mack 6spd 4.17 gears 445/65R22.5 front n 12.00R20 rear.1976 Arctic Cat Jag2000. 275cc twin, belt drive, steal grips.1977 Ford F350. 351M V-8, 4spd-DD, 4.56 Gears, 245/70R19.5G tires.1988 AMC Jeep MJ. 2.5L I-4, 4spd-DD, 4.10 Gears 215/70R15 front 225/70R15 rear.1992 Trans AM GTA. 406SBC TBI, 4L60E, 3.73 Gears, 245/50R16 front 295/50R16 Rear.1995 GMC K2500 6.5-T, 4L80E, 4.10 gears 7.50-16D tires. 4.56 Gears coming soon.2007 Honda Rubicon 500cc Single, 5spd fluid drive trans, 27x10-12 Front 27x12-12 Rear.Still in search of M52 5 ton tractor, M123A1C 10 ton tractor Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11310-does-any-body-have-any-info-on-the-bcr-conversions/#findComment-43070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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