bigmack61 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 anybody have any good suggestions for a air brake schematic. im restoring a 61 mack b753t that was originally a single screw but transformed from the factory to a twin screw. it sat in a field since 1995 in harsh illinois winters and alot of the lines disinegrated.i want to put it back to factory specs and this is my first undertaking of an antique mack.the bendix site doesnt really guide me all to well. any help is greatly appreciated.im going to use all plastic lines also. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11522-61-b-75-air-brake-schematics/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Not trying to be a smarty pants but, a tape measure is the ideal tool for this project. Just measure where the lines came out of their original air valves and you will want to follow the frame rails, one side or both depending on your likings. Its not rocket science but if you are like me I love to ask questions just to see if I can get a straight answer or not. Thats why i'm a smarta#^ most of the time. Keep Us posted and watchout for the Pelosi guy!!! mike Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11522-61-b-75-air-brake-schematics/#findComment-43716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmack61 Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 Not trying to be a smarty pants but, a tape measure is the ideal tool for this project. Just measure where the lines came out of their original air valves and you will want to follow the frame rails, one side or both depending on your likings. Its not rocket science but if you are like me I love to ask questions just to see if I can get a straight answer or not. Thats why i'm a smarta#^ most of the time. Keep Us posted and watchout for the Pelosi guy!!! mikeim sorry but im confused on your post i guess my ques is mainly where does everything go as in to which valves and such, this truck is a frame off and i didnt mark or map it out like i should have done.the problem is im not farmiliar with the older systems of braking. but thanks for your help Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11522-61-b-75-air-brake-schematics/#findComment-43718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanscottbuilders Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 The Bendix website can be a little confusing.But it is still the best reference for a complete air system schematic.There are printed versions of the schematic in the Bendix air valve catalog, which you can get from a vendor like NAPA or FleetPride. The schematic will show a color coded plastic air line system for a modern truck in both single and dual air supply systems. The least expensive way to get the parts is to find color coded air lines and all the valves at your local truck junk yard. The valves rarely fail, and the plastic lines are all re-usable with new ferrules.You will probably want to upgrade a few pieces for use on today's highways. The big items are maxi brakes for one of your rear axles and check valves to prevent accidental air loss in the event of a system failure. My own experience is that genuine Bendix equipment is worth the little bit of extra money it commands. Imitators are usually highly suspect Chinese goods, and not something you want to be staking your life on! Be especially careful for counterfeit parts too!Upgrading to a dual system is a lot of work, and I'm not certain it's worth the effort if a truck is being used as a toy only. We have installed a complete dual system in the B-67 restoration currently in our shop, and I have severely under-estimated the time and money involved. It looks cool - but it's probably not really necessary.Anyway - good luck with your project, and see if you can find a copy of the Bendix air brake schematic for the particular type of truck you are doing (tractor, straight truck etc.). It's a wealth of information with the valve part numbers and names, air line color coding and routing, and air line sizes all spelled out for you.Paul Van Scott Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11522-61-b-75-air-brake-schematics/#findComment-43721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Sorry about the stupid post that I did. I did not know your truck was a frame up project. Anyway, Paul is right on cue with his reply. Best Regards with your project! Sincerely! mike Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11522-61-b-75-air-brake-schematics/#findComment-43727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmack61 Posted November 24, 2009 Author Share Posted November 24, 2009 The Bendix website can be a little confusing.But it is still the best reference for a complete air system schematic.There are printed versions of the schematic in the Bendix air valve catalog, which you can get from a vendor like NAPA or FleetPride. The schematic will show a color coded plastic air line system for a modern truck in both single and dual air supply systems. The least expensive way to get the parts is to find color coded air lines and all the valves at your local truck junk yard. The valves rarely fail, and the plastic lines are all re-usable with new ferrules.You will probably want to upgrade a few pieces for use on today's highways. The big items are maxi brakes for one of your rear axles and check valves to prevent accidental air loss in the event of a system failure. My own experience is that genuine Bendix equipment is worth the little bit of extra money it commands. Imitators are usually highly suspect Chinese goods, and not something you want to be staking your life on! Be especially careful for counterfeit parts too!Upgrading to a dual system is a lot of work, and I'm not certain it's worth the effort if a truck is being used as a toy only. We have installed a complete dual system in the B-67 restoration currently in our shop, and I have severely under-estimated the time and money involved. It looks cool - but it's probably not really necessary.Anyway - good luck with your project, and see if you can find a copy of the Bendix air brake schematic for the particular type of truck you are doing (tractor, straight truck etc.). It's a wealth of information with the valve part numbers and names, air line color coding and routing, and air line sizes all spelled out for you.Paul Van Scottthanks for all the info.it will be a huge help.i guess the best attack is to jump in head first and just do it.the truck is only gonna be a toy and not actually be in service so the retrofit isnt nessecary.it was an original single axle truck that was sent to "modification pool" and changed to a tandem axle.and spent its life as a lowboy truck.i will post pics as soon as i can.thanks for your help. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11522-61-b-75-air-brake-schematics/#findComment-43746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmack61 Posted November 24, 2009 Author Share Posted November 24, 2009 Sorry about the stupid post that I did. I did not know your truck was a frame up project. Anyway, Paul is right on cue with his reply. Best Regards with your project! Sincerely! mikeno problem ,i should have been clearer on my question. p.s. does anybody make a or sell a fan shroud for this truck mine is pretty bad? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11522-61-b-75-air-brake-schematics/#findComment-43747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanscottbuilders Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 There is probably a fan shroud out there somewhere that could be bought.The shroud and the radiator are different in the B-73 & B-75 trucks than in most other B models, although the shrouds might possibly interchange. Be a little careful.There are also companies that custom make shrouds.And, if yours is at least good enough for a pattern - you might try a local sheet metal fabricator, or hot builder with some sheet metal fabrication skill.For my own purposes, I am going to try electric fans in my B-73, and the fan company has offered to make up the shroud, for a charge of course.I think trying the sheet metal shop route first makes the most sense, if your shroud is at least recognizable.Good Luck -Paul Van Scott Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11522-61-b-75-air-brake-schematics/#findComment-43828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastwolff Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 anybody have any good suggestions for a air brake schematic. im restoring a 61 mack b753t that was originally a single screw but transformed from the factory to a twin screw. it sat in a field since 1995 in harsh illinois winters and alot of the lines disinegrated.i want to put it back to factory specs and this is my first undertaking of an antique mack.the bendix site doesnt really guide me all to well. any help is greatly appreciated.im going to use all plastic lines also.Try contacting the Mackmuseum.com If they have finished their move, the can provide the original schematic.I hope this helps. I have a 1960 H model and if any pic's or other info will help let me know! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11522-61-b-75-air-brake-schematics/#findComment-45952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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