Kunle Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Hello Guys,I am somewhat new to this forum and to Mack Trucks in general.My question is that: Do Mack trucks generally comes with Detroit or Cummins engines from the factory? I am talking of trucks from 1970 - 1995. I have seem some advertised with engines other than Mack engines. Are they installed afterwards by owners as a replacement or is it an option from the factory?Thanks for your help. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11700-do-mack-trucks-comes-with-cummins-from-factory/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK Trucking Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Hello Guys,I am somewhat new to this forum and to Mack Trucks in general.My question is that: Do Mack trucks generally comes with Detroit or Cummins engines from the factory? I am talking of trucks from 1970 - 1995. I have seem some advertised with engines other than Mack engines. Are they installed afterwards by owners as a replacement or is it an option from the factory?Thanks for your help.Cummins, Detroit, and Cat engines were all available in Mack trucks from the factory during that time frame, if the truck was spec'ed with that brand of engine.. Quote "If You Can't Shift It Smoothly, You Shouldn't Be Driving It" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11700-do-mack-trucks-comes-with-cummins-from-factory/#findComment-44627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Cummins, Detroit, and Cat engines were all available in Mack trucks from the factory during that time frame, if the truck was spec'ed with that brand of engine..Indeed- I drove a '79 F-model with a 350 Cummins and 10 speed Roadranger. Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11700-do-mack-trucks-comes-with-cummins-from-factory/#findComment-44631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Vendor components have always been available options on Mack trucks from the '40s up to current models. The model numbers will indicate the engine options if you familiarize yourself on what to look for. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11700-do-mack-trucks-comes-with-cummins-from-factory/#findComment-44635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
B61TENDT711 Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Detroit !?!?!?! why would you do that to a Truck ?Mike Quote 1953 Studebaker M275. Reo 331 I-6, Spicer 5spd-DD, 6.72 Gears, 11.00R20H tires.1959 Mack B61T. Mack END+T 711 I-6, 2 stick 15spd-OD, 6.38 Gears, 12.00-24J tires.1962 GMC K4500. GMC 379M-V6, SM420-4spd-DD, 5.13 Gears, 8-19.5G tires.1969 AMC AMX. AMC 390 Crossram, borgwarner T-10 4spd, 4.44 Gears, G60-14s Front N50-15s Rear.1975 Mack DM600. 300 Mack 6spd 4.17 gears 445/65R22.5 front n 12.00R20 rear.1976 Arctic Cat Jag2000. 275cc twin, belt drive, steal grips.1977 Ford F350. 351M V-8, 4spd-DD, 4.56 Gears, 245/70R19.5G tires.1988 AMC Jeep MJ. 2.5L I-4, 4spd-DD, 4.10 Gears 215/70R15 front 225/70R15 rear.1992 Trans AM GTA. 406SBC TBI, 4L60E, 3.73 Gears, 245/50R16 front 295/50R16 Rear.1995 GMC K2500 6.5-T, 4L80E, 4.10 gears 7.50-16D tires. 4.56 Gears coming soon.2007 Honda Rubicon 500cc Single, 5spd fluid drive trans, 27x10-12 Front 27x12-12 Rear.Still in search of M52 5 ton tractor, M123A1C 10 ton tractor Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11700-do-mack-trucks-comes-with-cummins-from-factory/#findComment-44843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Rider Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Detroit !?!?!?! why would you do that to a Truck ?Mikewelllll , a twelve cylinder Detroit is roughly the same power as an inline 6 !!!! Quote #1 on A-model registryIf I drink because of work, why can't I drink at work? Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11700-do-mack-trucks-comes-with-cummins-from-factory/#findComment-45317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaddeusW Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Detroit !?!?!?! why would you do that to a Truck ?MikeBack in the day plenty of fleets ran 8V71's and 8V92's. They allowed Macks to integrate into fleets that had other Detroit powered vehicles, simplifies maintenance costs. Also some owners were engine loyal and wanted to stick with what they knew or liked. Even into the 90's you could get Cummins, CAT or Detroits in a CL.Today its either a red Volvo engine or nothing. The only engine I would ever care to see offered again is the E9. You just can beat that V8 sound. 1 1 Quote -Thad What America needs is less bull and more Bulldog! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11700-do-mack-trucks-comes-with-cummins-from-factory/#findComment-45335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 welllll , a twelve cylinder Detroit is roughly the same power as an inline 6 !!!! And less displacement than a Cummins! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11700-do-mack-trucks-comes-with-cummins-from-factory/#findComment-45346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackcl96 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 One or two years ago the Granite had cummins mostly in California but not now.2010 TerraPro Low Entry and Cabover refuse models now are availablewith heavy-duty natural gas engines. The 9-liter Cummins WestportISL G is rated at 320 hp, can use LNG or compressed natural gas(CNG), and has a three-way catalytic converter. Quote Thanks for hearing me out.You can have the soap box now---------JIM Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11700-do-mack-trucks-comes-with-cummins-from-factory/#findComment-45347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packer Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 My B-73 has a Cummins.(1963)Looking at an RL 700 with 335 Cummins. (1971)Hauled a B-XX to B-61 Fred with a 220 Cummins (196X)Packer Quote Keep a clutchin' Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11700-do-mack-trucks-comes-with-cummins-from-factory/#findComment-45356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackdaddy Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 My B-73 has a Cummins.(1963)Looking at an RL 700 with 335 Cummins. (1971)Hauled a B-XX to B-61 Fred with a 220 Cummins (196X)PackerTo help clarify the issue, Mack designated models that could have vendor engines. There are models such as the CH and certain R models that were designed only for a Mack engine. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11700-do-mack-trucks-comes-with-cummins-from-factory/#findComment-45358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packer Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Yep!Just trying to keep things simple.Old guts know most of this stuff but some of the new guys may not.Didn't think to add that: "Mack designated models that could have vendor engines."Good point!!!And thanksPacker Quote Keep a clutchin' Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11700-do-mack-trucks-comes-with-cummins-from-factory/#findComment-45359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 In my view mack could pump out a few more vehicles with the Cummins diesel option. They have had a relationship with Cummins as far back as the 40's maybee 30's. Merry Christmas. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11700-do-mack-trucks-comes-with-cummins-from-factory/#findComment-45373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
B61TENDT711 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 The Cummins 855 I-6 SC/BC's & 1150 I-6 KT's where some brutes and fairly reliable powerful engine's, I could see using those in a solid Mack truck . . . Cat i don't really know so i don't comment on them except i think the 3208 210-225hp V8 was a pile and the only Cat i ever delt with . . . Detroit i just never really liked but they sure sound cool rapping threw the gears at 3,200rpm's . . .I personally have had Fantastic Luck with Cummins & Mack Diesel's, so that's what i'll use for diesel power Mike Quote 1953 Studebaker M275. Reo 331 I-6, Spicer 5spd-DD, 6.72 Gears, 11.00R20H tires.1959 Mack B61T. Mack END+T 711 I-6, 2 stick 15spd-OD, 6.38 Gears, 12.00-24J tires.1962 GMC K4500. GMC 379M-V6, SM420-4spd-DD, 5.13 Gears, 8-19.5G tires.1969 AMC AMX. AMC 390 Crossram, borgwarner T-10 4spd, 4.44 Gears, G60-14s Front N50-15s Rear.1975 Mack DM600. 300 Mack 6spd 4.17 gears 445/65R22.5 front n 12.00R20 rear.1976 Arctic Cat Jag2000. 275cc twin, belt drive, steal grips.1977 Ford F350. 351M V-8, 4spd-DD, 4.56 Gears, 245/70R19.5G tires.1988 AMC Jeep MJ. 2.5L I-4, 4spd-DD, 4.10 Gears 215/70R15 front 225/70R15 rear.1992 Trans AM GTA. 406SBC TBI, 4L60E, 3.73 Gears, 245/50R16 front 295/50R16 Rear.1995 GMC K2500 6.5-T, 4L80E, 4.10 gears 7.50-16D tires. 4.56 Gears coming soon.2007 Honda Rubicon 500cc Single, 5spd fluid drive trans, 27x10-12 Front 27x12-12 Rear.Still in search of M52 5 ton tractor, M123A1C 10 ton tractor Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11700-do-mack-trucks-comes-with-cummins-from-factory/#findComment-45377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack700 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Hello Guys,I am somewhat new to this forum and to Mack Trucks in general.My question is that: Do Mack trucks generally comes with Detroit or Cummins engines from the factory? I am talking of trucks from 1970 - 1995. I have seem some advertised with engines other than Mack engines. Are they installed afterwards by owners as a replacement or is it an option from the factory?Thanks for your help.I think they would just about build anything they could. But you got to think of it like this do you want a purebred bulldog or a mutt Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11700-do-mack-trucks-comes-with-cummins-from-factory/#findComment-45594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesMack Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Will a Cat 3406 fit in a Mack CH or a Cummins X15 anyone have ideas? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11700-do-mack-trucks-comes-with-cummins-from-factory/#findComment-489000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 probably will, but you will probably have to make a wiring harness to adapt the computer and engine to work with the mack instrument cluster if it is a newer truck. a friend has a 94 (i think) CL700 with a 15 litre 600 cummins and 18 speed eaton fuller trans. . Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11700-do-mack-trucks-comes-with-cummins-from-factory/#findComment-489001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 A CH ? I don't think they're going to fit , let alone have enough radiator. CL ? Some were made with ISXs. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11700-do-mack-trucks-comes-with-cummins-from-factory/#findComment-489002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.E.D Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 CL had longer hood as well to accommodate these bigger engines. CL733 Cummins engine CL753 Cat 😸 engine CL743 Detroit engines...but these are rarer than a honest politician. Also .. different frame Red Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11700-do-mack-trucks-comes-with-cummins-from-factory/#findComment-489088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makeri_Driver Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 I can remember the first time I saw an R700 parked at our post plant loaded after getting in too late to be unloaded. The next morning the driver rides in with another truck and starts his Mack. The air starter first caught my attention but the buzzing of an 8V71 DD made me do a double take. That sound just seemed so strange coming from an R Model. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11700-do-mack-trucks-comes-with-cummins-from-factory/#findComment-489467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayseed Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Back in the 90's We Could CH Select with Detroit Series 60s fitted & CL Select with CAT Power. In the early 2000's We got ISX powered Superliners & Titans, But Once Volvo released the D16 they were Dropped.. Quote "Be who you are and say what you feel...Because those that matter...don't mind...And those that mind....don't matter." - Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11700-do-mack-trucks-comes-with-cummins-from-factory/#findComment-489481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 On 12/17/2009 at 8:16 AM, james j neiweem said: In my view mack could pump out a few more vehicles with the Cummins diesel option. They have had a relationship with Cummins as far back as the 40's maybee 30's. Merry Christmas. yrs back i looked at a '39 mack FK chain drive that was originally powered by a cummins. unfortunately i didn't buy it but should have Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11700-do-mack-trucks-comes-with-cummins-from-factory/#findComment-489486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 6 hours ago, Makeri_Driver said: I can remember the first time I saw an R700 parked at our post plant loaded after getting in too late to be unloaded. The next morning the driver rides in with another truck and starts his Mack. The air starter first caught my attention but the buzzing of an 8V71 DD made me do a double take. That sound just seemed so strange coming from an R Model. back in the day ;'70's wasn't too unusual on the east coast to see a twin stack mack R700 DD powered. rackin the brain to be accurate , seems roadway had some. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11700-do-mack-trucks-comes-with-cummins-from-factory/#findComment-489488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Roadway had tons of Macks and Whites powered by Detroits. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11700-do-mack-trucks-comes-with-cummins-from-factory/#findComment-489702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 I remember in 67 Roadway had some R700 mack with cat engines and i think they were the 1674 and yes many DD engines. Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/11700-do-mack-trucks-comes-with-cummins-from-factory/#findComment-489704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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