rich Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 I am R+R a 12 speed 1070b i have the the good tranny in and was about to attach the shifter and noticed that it will not work cause the shifter tower is now on the middle box compared to the front box on the origanal. What the shop did i dont know but i do know the front section was changed out cause the original one had an extra long input shaft. so i am thinking get a shifter that works or yank this tranny out and get one with the shift tower in front section??. buddy Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/12823-12-speed-question/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 I am R+R a 12 speed 1070b i have the the good tranny in and was about to attach the shifter and noticed that it will not work cause the shifter tower is now on the middle box compared to the front box on the origanal. What the shop did i dont know but i do know the front section was changed out cause the original one had an extra long input shaft. so i am thinking get a shifter that works or yank this tranny out and get one with the shift tower in front section??. buddyThe only diffrence between the one you have and the one you took out is the shift rails !But the first section of trans has to come off to change out the rails!OR alter the stick! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/12823-12-speed-question/#findComment-50391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich Posted February 28, 2010 Author Share Posted February 28, 2010 and if i do try to use it the way it is will the gearing be compatible to the original. so for now i am at a complete stop and will have to wait till tomorrow for more in unless there is a tranny expert watching over me on this site.buddy Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/12823-12-speed-question/#findComment-50392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 and if i do try to use it the way it is will the gearing be compatible to the original. so for now i am at a complete stop and will have to wait till tomorrow for more in unless there is a tranny expert watching over me on this site.buddy The gearing isn't going to change! If you got a the same model number its the same gears.The input shaft was likly changed cause it came from a cement mixer with a flywheel pto! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/12823-12-speed-question/#findComment-50393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 The gearing isn't going to change! If you got a the same model number its the same gears.The input shaft was likly changed cause it came from a cement mixer with a flywheel pto!1070b If the leter changes on the end the ratio will be diffrent the shift lid locations do not change the ratio. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/12823-12-speed-question/#findComment-50394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich Posted February 28, 2010 Author Share Posted February 28, 2010 man u know your stuff, that is exactly what it was i saw a pto kinda sitting up on top to the side before they changed it out. what would you do? i have an extra shifter and the technoligy to make it any shape i want. The shift tower is dirrectly below the hole in the cab so a staight shfiter should work i think wada you think?? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/12823-12-speed-question/#findComment-50395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 man u know your stuff, that is exactly what it was i saw a pto kinda sitting up on top to the side before they changed it out. what would you do? i have an extra shifter and the technoligy to make it any shape i want. The shift tower is dirrectly below the hole in the cab so a staight shfiter should work i think wada you think??I would stright stick it! Simple as buying a stick !Your working on an RW that has a remote shifter bracket bolted to the top correct? That air shift can go in either or hole front or mid! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/12823-12-speed-question/#findComment-50396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich Posted February 28, 2010 Author Share Posted February 28, 2010 superliner 87 has a a plate on the rear box for reverse a one for nuetral i think for a pto then i have a air cylinder for low low with a swith on the dash buddy Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/12823-12-speed-question/#findComment-50397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich Posted February 28, 2010 Author Share Posted February 28, 2010 that low low air cyclinder is right next to the shift tower for the stick Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/12823-12-speed-question/#findComment-50398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich Posted February 28, 2010 Author Share Posted February 28, 2010 the shifter is a remote air valve with 4 positions i believe if that is what you are talking about'Buddy Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/12823-12-speed-question/#findComment-50400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 superliner 87 has a a plate on the rear box for reverse a one for nuetral i think for a pto then i have a air cylinder for low low with a swith on the dash buddy NO there is an air shift on the dash that oporates the Cylinder on the front section of the trans the rear is forward reverse And Split!K There could be to openings on the front box or just a plate ! It don't mater where you put the air shift for low low it canbe on the front or right next to the stick it dosent mater ! I would buy a stick and put it in as is you may have to open up the floor hole a bit thats no biggy! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/12823-12-speed-question/#findComment-50401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 NO there is an air shift on the dash that oporates the Cylinder on the front section of the trans the rear is forward reverse And Split!K There could be to openings on the front box or just a plate ! It don't mater where you put the air shift for low low it canbe on the front or right next to the stick it dosent mater ! I would buy a stick and put it in as is you may have to open up the floor hole a bit thats no biggy!Bud Post a picture of the trans if you can!OR if your like me have your Kids do it!Let Us know how you make out on this! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/12823-12-speed-question/#findComment-50402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich Posted February 28, 2010 Author Share Posted February 28, 2010 Bud Post a picture of the trans if you can!OR if your like me have your Kids do it!Let Us know how you make out on this!my brother just came home and he is a whiz at this picture stuff Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/12823-12-speed-question/#findComment-50406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich Posted February 28, 2010 Author Share Posted February 28, 2010 my brother just came home and he is a whiz at this picture stuffI pursuaded a shifter to fit and realized the threaded end was wrong so i welded a bolt on and now that problem is fixed. I think with Ya"lls help i may win this battle. The pics will be up soon!Buddy Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/12823-12-speed-question/#findComment-50407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich Posted February 28, 2010 Author Share Posted February 28, 2010 I pursuaded a shifter to fit and realized the threaded end was wrong so i welded a bolt on and now that problem is fixed. I think with Ya"lls help i may win this battle. The pics will be up soon!Buddy Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/12823-12-speed-question/#findComment-50409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich Posted February 28, 2010 Author Share Posted February 28, 2010 1st pic is old tranny 2nd pic is new tranny in truck and ssthird is new tranny in truck so far it seems all air shifters working as i aired up the truck and tried it outBuddy Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/12823-12-speed-question/#findComment-50410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 1st pic is old tranny 2nd pic is new tranny in truck and ssthird is new tranny in truck so far it seems all air shifters working as i aired up the truck and tried it outBuddyYou Don't need myall's help your done! Good job! You'll be drivin it in an hour Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/12823-12-speed-question/#findComment-50411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 You Don't need myall's help your done! Good job! You'll be drivin it in an hourIf you have any trouble with the low low remember that there still may be a spring and a ball under the front cover you may have to remove for it to work right with the air shift the truck it came from likly had 2 sticks. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/12823-12-speed-question/#findComment-50412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich Posted February 28, 2010 Author Share Posted February 28, 2010 If you have any trouble with the low low remember that there still may be a spring and a ball under the front cover you may have to remove for it to work right with the air shift the truck it came from likly had 2 sticks.thanks for the help, where else can you get quality help on a sunday Ya"ll are awsome people glade to be a part of this, well i guess i will call it brotherhood. buddy Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/12823-12-speed-question/#findComment-50427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 thanks for the help, where else can you get quality help on a sunday Ya"ll are awsome people glade to be a part of this, well i guess i will call it brotherhood. buddyNo aplause please just throw money! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/12823-12-speed-question/#findComment-50428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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