B61TENDT711 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 1955-1957 Mack M125 10ton 6x6:LeRoi 844 V-8 Gas engine, 5spd manual trans, 9.02:1 gearing, 14.00-24 tires.I keep missing the owner, I would like to have a ball parked guess onto what this is worth . . .Mike Quote 1953 Studebaker M275. Reo 331 I-6, Spicer 5spd-DD, 6.72 Gears, 11.00R20H tires.1959 Mack B61T. Mack END+T 711 I-6, 2 stick 15spd-OD, 6.38 Gears, 12.00-24J tires.1962 GMC K4500. GMC 379M-V6, SM420-4spd-DD, 5.13 Gears, 8-19.5G tires.1969 AMC AMX. AMC 390 Crossram, borgwarner T-10 4spd, 4.44 Gears, G60-14s Front N50-15s Rear.1975 Mack DM600. 300 Mack 6spd 4.17 gears 445/65R22.5 front n 12.00R20 rear.1976 Arctic Cat Jag2000. 275cc twin, belt drive, steal grips.1977 Ford F350. 351M V-8, 4spd-DD, 4.56 Gears, 245/70R19.5G tires.1988 AMC Jeep MJ. 2.5L I-4, 4spd-DD, 4.10 Gears 215/70R15 front 225/70R15 rear.1992 Trans AM GTA. 406SBC TBI, 4L60E, 3.73 Gears, 245/50R16 front 295/50R16 Rear.1995 GMC K2500 6.5-T, 4L80E, 4.10 gears 7.50-16D tires. 4.56 Gears coming soon.2007 Honda Rubicon 500cc Single, 5spd fluid drive trans, 27x10-12 Front 27x12-12 Rear.Still in search of M52 5 ton tractor, M123A1C 10 ton tractor Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/12863-what-to-offer-for-this/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaddeusW Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Depends on the condition. If it runs, drives and has no drive line problems then it could be worth up to $10,000. There is one or two that were used for heavy haul on truckpaper.com and they want some crazy number, something like $35,000 each. I don't know how good the LeRoi engine is but they more commonly built with Cummins non turbo 903 V8's. Transmission is a Mack gearbox with integrated transfer case and the rears are 65,000 pound Mack axles with a 9.02:1 ratio. The front might be rated at 18,000 lbs, not sure but it uses a helix gear set instead of a double cardan joint for the axle shaft.Not a fast truck but a very powerful one, made to haul tanks off road so it has to be tougher than nails. Shame Oshkosh took over making Military trucks, Mack could have easily have filled that need. Quote -Thad What America needs is less bull and more Bulldog! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/12863-what-to-offer-for-this/#findComment-50541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
B61TENDT711 Posted March 3, 2010 Author Share Posted March 3, 2010 Depends on the condition. If it runs, drives and has no drive line problems then it could be worth up to $10,000. There is one or two that were used for heavy haul on truckpaper.com and they want some crazy number, something like $35,000 each. I don't know how good the LeRoi engine is but they more commonly built with Cummins non turbo 903's . Transmission is a Mack gearbox with integrated transfer case and the rears are 65,000 pound Mack axles with a 9.02:1 ratio. The front might be rated at 18,000 lbs, not sure but it uses a helix gear set instead of a double cardan joint for the axle shaft.Not a fast truck but a very powerful one, made to haul tanks off road so it has to be tougher than nails. Shame Oshkosh took over making Military trucks, Mack could have easily have filled that need.903 V8's Incorrect, its a V-300 300hp@3,000rpm the V-903 was 300hp@2100rpm., the V-300 is 785CID the V-903 is 902.8CID Correction: the diesel's got 10.11:1 gears not 9.02's The 18K steer axles part number matches that of a 65K-lb Mack driving steer axle.The 65K-lb Rear axle part numbers match that of the 120-150K-LB Mack rears. IE: Madison Mack Sales inc.Not busting your chop's no malice intended, the M123 & M125 same plate form but the M125 is actually a cargo truck the M123 was the tractor . . .I was going to repower the M125 with a V-300 Cummins diesel has the 3,000rpm diesel will speed up the truck over the 2,600rpm Gasser . . .giving me a plenty powerful 45mph cruising speed and a 52mph get out dodge speed . . .M123/M125 cruising speed is 35-40mph M123 max speed is 44mph and M125 max speed is 42mph.Sadly i know all the Tech data on them, But i haven't a clue on the value of them $10,000-$35,000 your saying ?Mike Quote 1953 Studebaker M275. Reo 331 I-6, Spicer 5spd-DD, 6.72 Gears, 11.00R20H tires.1959 Mack B61T. Mack END+T 711 I-6, 2 stick 15spd-OD, 6.38 Gears, 12.00-24J tires.1962 GMC K4500. GMC 379M-V6, SM420-4spd-DD, 5.13 Gears, 8-19.5G tires.1969 AMC AMX. AMC 390 Crossram, borgwarner T-10 4spd, 4.44 Gears, G60-14s Front N50-15s Rear.1975 Mack DM600. 300 Mack 6spd 4.17 gears 445/65R22.5 front n 12.00R20 rear.1976 Arctic Cat Jag2000. 275cc twin, belt drive, steal grips.1977 Ford F350. 351M V-8, 4spd-DD, 4.56 Gears, 245/70R19.5G tires.1988 AMC Jeep MJ. 2.5L I-4, 4spd-DD, 4.10 Gears 215/70R15 front 225/70R15 rear.1992 Trans AM GTA. 406SBC TBI, 4L60E, 3.73 Gears, 245/50R16 front 295/50R16 Rear.1995 GMC K2500 6.5-T, 4L80E, 4.10 gears 7.50-16D tires. 4.56 Gears coming soon.2007 Honda Rubicon 500cc Single, 5spd fluid drive trans, 27x10-12 Front 27x12-12 Rear.Still in search of M52 5 ton tractor, M123A1C 10 ton tractor Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/12863-what-to-offer-for-this/#findComment-50552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaddeusW Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 903 V8's Incorrect, its a V-300 300hp@3,000rpm the V-903 was 300hp@2100rpm., the V-300 is 785CID the V-903 is 902.8CID Correction: the diesel's got 10.11:1 gears not 9.02's The 18K steer axles part number matches that of a 65K-lb Mack driving steer axle.The 65K-lb Rear axle part numbers match that of the 120-150K-LB Mack rears. IE: Madison Mack Sales inc.Not busting your chop's no malice intended, the M123 & M125 same plate form but the M125 is actually a cargo truck the M123 was the tractor . . .I was going to repower the M125 with a V-300 Cummins diesel has the 3,000rpm diesel will speed up the truck over the 2,600rpm Gasser . . .giving me a plenty powerful 45mph cruising speed and a 52mph get out dodge speed . . .M123/M125 cruising speed is 35-40mph M123 max speed is 44mph and M125 max speed is 42mph.Sadly i know all the Tech data on them, But i haven't a clue on the value of them $10,000-$35,000 your saying ?MikeNo offence taken, everyone is allowed to make mistakes. I have seen 10 tons built with a 903, in fact there is a website with a 903 and transmission/transfercase for sale that is for a 10 ton. http://www.easternsu...et/spares1.html . Maybe I am getting my 10 ton models confused. As for price I am just quoting what I have seen various 10 tons go for on military truck dealers, ebay and truck paper. I used to have a bunch of links saved up for such dealer sites but I lost most of them. There was a real nice one on eBay not too long ago with a set of gin poles installed to turn it into a little crane. Was used for house moving. Owner wanted I think between 10-15 grand so that might be a ball park for a good used one. The $35,000 figure was from this listing on truck paper. I think that person is looking to keep that truck for quite some time if you ask me, 29-5 is very steep (used to be 35k)Oh I found a listing for one in VA but I lost the link, Google for m125 sale or m123 sale and you might be able to find it. Was listed for about 4500. So I would try to see if it runs and drives good then make an offer of 5k and see what the owner says. Quote -Thad What America needs is less bull and more Bulldog! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/12863-what-to-offer-for-this/#findComment-50599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
B61TENDT711 Posted March 4, 2010 Author Share Posted March 4, 2010 There was a Cab over 10ton model but that one you listed dose appear to be removed from a the M123/M125 version, Must have been a repower ? . . . I got my tail tore by some MV guys for calling it a 903 Mike Quote 1953 Studebaker M275. Reo 331 I-6, Spicer 5spd-DD, 6.72 Gears, 11.00R20H tires.1959 Mack B61T. Mack END+T 711 I-6, 2 stick 15spd-OD, 6.38 Gears, 12.00-24J tires.1962 GMC K4500. GMC 379M-V6, SM420-4spd-DD, 5.13 Gears, 8-19.5G tires.1969 AMC AMX. AMC 390 Crossram, borgwarner T-10 4spd, 4.44 Gears, G60-14s Front N50-15s Rear.1975 Mack DM600. 300 Mack 6spd 4.17 gears 445/65R22.5 front n 12.00R20 rear.1976 Arctic Cat Jag2000. 275cc twin, belt drive, steal grips.1977 Ford F350. 351M V-8, 4spd-DD, 4.56 Gears, 245/70R19.5G tires.1988 AMC Jeep MJ. 2.5L I-4, 4spd-DD, 4.10 Gears 215/70R15 front 225/70R15 rear.1992 Trans AM GTA. 406SBC TBI, 4L60E, 3.73 Gears, 245/50R16 front 295/50R16 Rear.1995 GMC K2500 6.5-T, 4L80E, 4.10 gears 7.50-16D tires. 4.56 Gears coming soon.2007 Honda Rubicon 500cc Single, 5spd fluid drive trans, 27x10-12 Front 27x12-12 Rear.Still in search of M52 5 ton tractor, M123A1C 10 ton tractor Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/12863-what-to-offer-for-this/#findComment-50620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaddeusW Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 There was a Cab over 10ton model but that one you listed dose appear to be removed from a the M123/M125 version, Must have been a repower ? . . . I got my tail tore by some MV guys for calling it a 903 MikeI think you are correct. The V300 was standard but they might have used the 903 for re-power at some point. Quote -Thad What America needs is less bull and more Bulldog! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/12863-what-to-offer-for-this/#findComment-50623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
B61TENDT711 Posted March 5, 2010 Author Share Posted March 5, 2010 Well WI voted to BAN Military vehicles from the road road way's they can on be plated with Historic Military Vehicle plates and used for meets and parades . . .So that shoot this in the tail, it also means my 53' Stude M275er is now only worth scrap to me . . .Mike Quote 1953 Studebaker M275. Reo 331 I-6, Spicer 5spd-DD, 6.72 Gears, 11.00R20H tires.1959 Mack B61T. Mack END+T 711 I-6, 2 stick 15spd-OD, 6.38 Gears, 12.00-24J tires.1962 GMC K4500. GMC 379M-V6, SM420-4spd-DD, 5.13 Gears, 8-19.5G tires.1969 AMC AMX. AMC 390 Crossram, borgwarner T-10 4spd, 4.44 Gears, G60-14s Front N50-15s Rear.1975 Mack DM600. 300 Mack 6spd 4.17 gears 445/65R22.5 front n 12.00R20 rear.1976 Arctic Cat Jag2000. 275cc twin, belt drive, steal grips.1977 Ford F350. 351M V-8, 4spd-DD, 4.56 Gears, 245/70R19.5G tires.1988 AMC Jeep MJ. 2.5L I-4, 4spd-DD, 4.10 Gears 215/70R15 front 225/70R15 rear.1992 Trans AM GTA. 406SBC TBI, 4L60E, 3.73 Gears, 245/50R16 front 295/50R16 Rear.1995 GMC K2500 6.5-T, 4L80E, 4.10 gears 7.50-16D tires. 4.56 Gears coming soon.2007 Honda Rubicon 500cc Single, 5spd fluid drive trans, 27x10-12 Front 27x12-12 Rear.Still in search of M52 5 ton tractor, M123A1C 10 ton tractor Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/12863-what-to-offer-for-this/#findComment-50676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaddeusW Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Well WI voted to BAN Military vehicles from the road road way's they can on be plated with Historic Military Vehicle plates and used for meets and parades . . .So that shoot this in the tail, it also means my 53' Stude M275er is now only worth scrap to me . . .MikeWHY? Quote -Thad What America needs is less bull and more Bulldog! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/12863-what-to-offer-for-this/#findComment-50683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
B61TENDT711 Posted March 6, 2010 Author Share Posted March 6, 2010 WHY? because i won't be able to haul with it . . . i I will have to tag it with these new "Historic Military Vehicle" plates which are more restrictive then F'in Collectors plate's . . .HMV = can only drive it to show's, meets or in parades or short trip operation for maintenance purposes . . .COL = can't drive in the month of Jan can't haul over 500lb's . . .This above truck and my Current MV the 1953 Studebaker M275 unregistered other then the "HMV" plates . . .My choices are:1. parade / show.2. yard/lawn decoration.3. use it as a farm tractor.4. Recycle it.Mike Quote 1953 Studebaker M275. Reo 331 I-6, Spicer 5spd-DD, 6.72 Gears, 11.00R20H tires.1959 Mack B61T. Mack END+T 711 I-6, 2 stick 15spd-OD, 6.38 Gears, 12.00-24J tires.1962 GMC K4500. GMC 379M-V6, SM420-4spd-DD, 5.13 Gears, 8-19.5G tires.1969 AMC AMX. AMC 390 Crossram, borgwarner T-10 4spd, 4.44 Gears, G60-14s Front N50-15s Rear.1975 Mack DM600. 300 Mack 6spd 4.17 gears 445/65R22.5 front n 12.00R20 rear.1976 Arctic Cat Jag2000. 275cc twin, belt drive, steal grips.1977 Ford F350. 351M V-8, 4spd-DD, 4.56 Gears, 245/70R19.5G tires.1988 AMC Jeep MJ. 2.5L I-4, 4spd-DD, 4.10 Gears 215/70R15 front 225/70R15 rear.1992 Trans AM GTA. 406SBC TBI, 4L60E, 3.73 Gears, 245/50R16 front 295/50R16 Rear.1995 GMC K2500 6.5-T, 4L80E, 4.10 gears 7.50-16D tires. 4.56 Gears coming soon.2007 Honda Rubicon 500cc Single, 5spd fluid drive trans, 27x10-12 Front 27x12-12 Rear.Still in search of M52 5 ton tractor, M123A1C 10 ton tractor Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/12863-what-to-offer-for-this/#findComment-50690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 (edited) Do you have any really good friends in more "sympathetic" states,who might be willing to help out? If so,ask one of them if he/she'd be willing to buy slightly over half ownership of the truck for maybe $10.00,and license and insure it in that state. By your retaining less than half ownership,you wouldn't have the responsibility to comply,and you'd still have to give the final okay to any intended sale or trade of the truck,just in case there's a parting of the ways down the road or your friend should prove to be a less than good friend. Since the truck would be licensed and insured in another state,and a resident of another state would be the majority owner,and you're only "borrowing" it from the primary owner when you need it,I don't think they'd have much to work with. You'll want to discreetly check the rules for both states though,because they may play from a different rule book there than we do out here. Speed Edited March 11, 2010 by Speed Quote "Remember-ANY Gun Control is Unconstitutional!"<!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><i><b>MACK-E Model Registry # 36</b></i><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--><a href="http://www.nvabatetravel.com/"target="_blank">http://www.nvabatetravel.com/</a> Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/12863-what-to-offer-for-this/#findComment-51022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaddeusW Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 because i won't be able to haul with it . . . i I will have to tag it with these new "Historic Military Vehicle" plates which are more restrictive then F'in Collectors plate's . . .HMV = can only drive it to show's, meets or in parades or short trip operation for maintenance purposes . . .COL = can't drive in the month of Jan can't haul over 500lb's . . .This above truck and my Current MV the 1953 Studebaker M275 unregistered other then the "HMV" plates . . .My choices are:1. parade / show.2. yard/lawn decoration.3. use it as a farm tractor.4. Recycle it.MikeShame. The WHY was directed at the insane law that bans military trucks from the roads. What motivated the state to pass this law? Quote -Thad What America needs is less bull and more Bulldog! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/12863-what-to-offer-for-this/#findComment-51035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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