Show Dog Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 I am used to my old primitive superliner which will be going through some physical changes this winter, ie: 4 feet longer and air ride suspension. I just bought a 2000 vision with a 460hp e7. The cam has already been replaced. As soon as i get it home i am disconnecting the low water level sensor if it has one. What other dodads do i need to disconnect before working it? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1521-disabling-the-vison/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullfuel01 Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 don't see anything to unplug. but plug back your brain! old mack are lot better then electronic! don't change your superliner for a vision... well i must admit it's still a mack but you know... nothing beat a nice rod! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1521-disabling-the-vison/#findComment-7526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick harper Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 you have to disable the low water level sensor with the computer @ the mack shop and pray that there isn't a password logged. if there is a password you have to get the old owner to give that to you. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1521-disabling-the-vison/#findComment-7538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Dog Posted September 21, 2006 Author Share Posted September 21, 2006 it's a 2000 not a 2001. I have already disconnected the low water level thingy. you just cut the 2 wires that go to the resevior and tie them together. that was a simple fix. I have disabled the abs also. The block in the truck can be transformed back to a mechanical pump. that's one reason i bought the truck. I run about 300miles a day and i have to keep running while i am updating the superdog. I cant take that camel "break my" back suspension anymore. I can never get rid of her! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1521-disabling-the-vison/#findComment-7651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaddeusW Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 it's a 2000 not a 2001. I have already disconnected the low water level thingy. you just cut the 2 wires that go to the resevior and tie them together. that was a simple fix. I have disabled the abs also. The block in the truck can be transformed back to a mechanical pump. that's one reason i bought the truck. I run about 300miles a day and i have to keep running while i am updating the superdog. I cant take that camel "break my" back suspension anymore. I can never get rid of her!Pardon my ignorance but why would you want to disconnect those sensors/systems? And which pump is mechanical, the water pump? And is the ABS bad or just trying to avoid potential problems? Quote -Thad What America needs is less bull and more Bulldog! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1521-disabling-the-vison/#findComment-7652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Dog Posted September 22, 2006 Author Share Posted September 22, 2006 Well Thad, if the water level gets low, "ive heard," it will shut the engine down. It does have an override switch but... I am young but im oldschool. If you check your fluids every day, keep an eye on your gauges, keep your ears open, and have a nose for things, you will be alright. I just really want to avoid future sensor problems, because they will eventually go bad. And as for abs, I don't think anything is wrong with it. But I want full control of my brakes. I know how to drive/brake, and i don't want a computer releasing the brakes for me. and as for the pump, i am going to put a mechanical fuel pump back on the engine eventually, if i ever have costly problems with the electrical one. And whoever says that it can't be done, is wrong. I talked to the guys at the mack/volvo engine manufacturing plant in Hagerstown MD On the newer engines, i can't remember which year it starts but i know it's after 2001 you cannot do it. Like i said before, im old school.Pardon my ignorance but why would you want to disconnect those sensors/systems? And which pump is mechanical, the water pump? And is the ABS bad or just trying to avoid potential problems? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1521-disabling-the-vison/#findComment-7654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack 3P Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Well Thad, if the water level gets low, "ive heard," it will shut the engine down. It does have an override switch but... I am young but im oldschool. If you check your fluids every day, keep an eye on your gauges, keep your ears open, and have a nose for things, you will be alright. I just really want to avoid future sensor problems, because they will eventually go bad. And as for abs, I don't think anything is wrong with it. But I want full control of my brakes. I know how to drive/brake, and i don't want a computer releasing the brakes for me. and as for the pump, i am going to put a mechanical fuel pump back on the engine eventually, if i ever have costly problems with the electrical one. And whoever says that it can't be done, is wrong. I talked to the guys at the mack/volvo engine manufacturing plant in Hagerstown MD On the newer engines, i can't remember which year it starts but i know it's after 2001 you cannot do it. Like i said before, im old school.I am reading this post and grimacing. The low water level sensor is a saftey feature for your truck so you don't destroy the engine. It's cheaper to replace a $6 sensor then the engine. Is it a Bendix or Wabco ABS system? What did you do to disable the system, pull the fuse or unplug the module? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1521-disabling-the-vison/#findComment-7655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Well Thad, if the water level gets low, "ive heard," it will shut the engine down. It does have an override switch but... I am young but im oldschool. If you check your fluids every day, keep an eye on your gauges, keep your ears open, and have a nose for things, you will be alright. I just really want to avoid future sensor problems, because they will eventually go bad. And as for abs, I don't think anything is wrong with it. But I want full control of my brakes. I know how to drive/brake, and i don't want a computer releasing the brakes for me. and as for the pump, i am going to put a mechanical fuel pump back on the engine eventually, if i ever have costly problems with the electrical one. And whoever says that it can't be done, is wrong. I talked to the guys at the mack/volvo engine manufacturing plant in Hagerstown MD On the newer engines, i can't remember which year it starts but i know it's after 2001 you cannot do it. Like i said before, im old school.I think you should save this post or discussion for a years and then go back and read it after you have messed up a good engine and that is what you will do if you dont know any more than to disable the engine protectiom and then you will hate your self. Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1521-disabling-the-vison/#findComment-7659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Dog Posted September 22, 2006 Author Share Posted September 22, 2006 No offense, but if you are a real diver, you will pay attention to your truck and you can sense problems. I only put up this post to see if anyone knew of anymore unnecessary sh*t that i need to rid the truck of. Ive been running my 87 superliner with no sensors whatso ever for almost 4 years now. PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR GAUGES, THEY AREN'T THERE FOR LOOKS, but some people think so. And i personally dont like ABS, OKAY. Oh, and the mufflers are getting scrapped this weekend. I wanna hear that dog bark, lol. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1521-disabling-the-vison/#findComment-7673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK Trucking Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 I cant take that camel "break my" back suspension anymore. I can never get rid of her!Maybe you should disconnect the "pain sensor" in your back & keep running the superliner.A superliner is way more of a truck than a vision.IMHO, air ride is not the hot setup.Just my .02. Quote "If You Can't Shift It Smoothly, You Shouldn't Be Driving It" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1521-disabling-the-vison/#findComment-7676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudslut28 Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 I gotta agree with the "watch your gauges" sayings here. I have never needed an ear piercing alarm and a bunch of lights to see if the motor is getting hot. Any decent driver checks his/her oil/water on a regular basis. Thankfully the previous owner had all the shutdowns disabled except whent he low air buzzer is still on my "new" 92 model.Showdog I had an 86 RD 800 that had an E7 400 Mechanical installed in it for a short time. In my experience the computer motors seemed to run a lot stronger than the mechanicals but that is just a 3-4 truck comparison so it may not be the norm. The E7 400 "puter" motor in my r model now runs like a raped ape...Im pretty darned impressed with the power to say the least. I really couldnt blame ya for wanting to get rid of anything electronic though...Im old school as well. I'd imagine I'd probably do it if it gave me much trouble as well...but I hope it dont hehehe. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1521-disabling-the-vison/#findComment-7875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCDriver Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Is it a Bendix or Wabco ABS system? What did you do to disable the system, pull the fuse or unplug the module?What did you do to disable??????????? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1521-disabling-the-vison/#findComment-7921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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