Fishhook Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1556-too-ugly-for-words/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Oh my! Looks like you've found the Magnum! Glad we didn't get those in the States! A bloke from down under was telling me that they call them toasters!! Quote Barry - Watt's Truck Center Parts Manager and BMT Webmaster...1-888-304-MACK Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1556-too-ugly-for-words/#findComment-7663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaddeusW Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 Oh my! Looks like you've found the Magnum! Glad we didn't get those in the States! A bloke from down under was telling me that they call them toasters!!Actually its the quantum, the succesor to the magnum. The magnum looks like this:Newer European Magnum:Its uses a Renault Magnum cab which is kinda funky loking but has a totally flat floor. The quantum uses the Renault premium high cab.I happen to like the Quantum, always though those Saviem/Renault cabs were sharp looking. Unfortunatly its cheaper to import the Renault cab then produce the MH cab . Same is supposed to happen with the Mack cab here, replaced with a Volvo cab . In my opinion if they go as far as to replace the Mack cab and engines with Volvo engines they should take their Volvo truck division and disolve it. Quote -Thad What America needs is less bull and more Bulldog! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1556-too-ugly-for-words/#findComment-7682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishhook Posted September 24, 2006 Author Share Posted September 24, 2006 Quantum, always though those Saviem/Renault cabs were sharp looking.Put the crack pipe down!! I think I've seen the ugliest truck on the planet.WTF Makes the Argosy look fantastic!!! ....YUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1556-too-ugly-for-words/#findComment-7686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GearheadGrrrl Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 A Volvo cabover with a Mack powetrain sounds to me like one hell of a truck! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1556-too-ugly-for-words/#findComment-7688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog man Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 i just hope volvo doesent do our beloved bulldog what they did to the Autocar later bulldog (aka mack1:) Quote You Cant Fix Stupid. But You Can Numb It With A Sledgehammer. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1556-too-ugly-for-words/#findComment-7700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 If you go to Spain, that's what all the trucks look like, single axle cabovers and triaxle trailers(super single tires on the trailer). By the way diesel is almost 5$ a gallon. Tombstone Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1556-too-ugly-for-words/#findComment-7703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK Trucking Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 Actually its the quantum, the succesor to the magnum. The magnum looks like this:Newer European Magnum:Its uses a Renault Magnum cab which is kinda funky loking but has a totally flat floor. The quantum uses the Renault premium high cab.I happen to like the Quantum, always though those Saviem/Renault cabs were sharp looking. Unfortunatly its cheaper to import the Renault cab then produce the MH cab . Same is supposed to happen with the Mack cab here, replaced with a Volvo cab . In my opinion if they go as far as to replace the Mack cab and engines with Volvo engines they should take their Volvo truck division and disolve it.It looks like a fat guy who tightened his belt too much. Quote "If You Can't Shift It Smoothly, You Shouldn't Be Driving It" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1556-too-ugly-for-words/#findComment-7704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaddeusW Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 Put the crack pipe down!! I think I've seen the ugliest truck on the planet.WTF Makes the Argosy look fantastic!!! ....YUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LoL Yea it is certainly odd. I think it was better that they switched to the Premium cab. Didnt Mack have a prototype USA version of the Magnum after they decided to cancel the MH? Anyone have pictures of it?HK, I always called it the garbadge can. One good thing about Renault is they never messed with Mack. They even used Mack engines in their Trucks.This is a Mack powerd Magnum. The owner added the Mack logo. They had respect for the Dog. Quote -Thad What America needs is less bull and more Bulldog! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1556-too-ugly-for-words/#findComment-7705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullfuel01 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 I'm glad to be in America! do they have plastic 6'' straight pipe?? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1556-too-ugly-for-words/#findComment-7707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishhook Posted September 25, 2006 Author Share Posted September 25, 2006 The more I look at that thing, it reminds me of some Matchbox trucks I had as a kid in the 70's. I always hated them because they didnt look realistic.The dimensions look all wrong. It looks like a cartoon. No thanks Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1556-too-ugly-for-words/#findComment-7717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCDriver Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 The more I look at that thing, it reminds me of some Matchbox trucks I had as a kid in the 70's. I always hated them because they didnt look realistic.The dimensions look all wrong. It looks like a cartoon. No thanksI liked Matchbox trucks,, I liked them in the 60's, now it's time to drive them.... I had to edit. My first over the road truck was a Freightliner Cab over, had a 350 big cam and 13sp. ran like hell, but beat the crap out of you..I rember 1 time 95 was shut down in Phila. PA and we ran through the city, the only ones that took the short cuts were Cab overs, so that being said I'd try a modern Cab over... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1556-too-ugly-for-words/#findComment-7722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishhook Posted October 14, 2006 Author Share Posted October 14, 2006 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1556-too-ugly-for-words/#findComment-7944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaddeusW Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 I liked Matchbox trucks,, I liked them in the 60's, now it's time to drive them.... I had to edit. My first over the road truck was a Freightliner Cab over, had a 350 big cam and 13sp. ran like hell, but beat the crap out of you..I rember 1 time 95 was shut down in Phila. PA and we ran through the city, the only ones that took the short cuts were Cab overs, so that being said I'd try a modern Cab over... I dont think you would be dissapointed I have sat in and test drove a Mack Freedom (Renault Midlum) which is very similar to the Premium cab. Very comfortable and the Premium cab is supposed to ride even smoother. Full 4 point cab air suspension modern comfortable air seats makes for a real smooth ride. So many old timers constanly bash cabovers because they rode in the dinosaurs never stopping to think of the progress made in modern cabovers. The Europeans are very progressive and put allot of engineering into comfort. Quote -Thad What America needs is less bull and more Bulldog! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1556-too-ugly-for-words/#findComment-7955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCDriver Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 I dont think you would be dissapointed I have sat in and test drove a Mack Freedom (Renault Midlum) which is very similar to the Premium cab. Very comfortable and the Premium cab is supposed to ride even smoother. Full 4 point cab air suspension modern comfortable air seats makes for a real smooth ride. So many old timers constanly bash cabovers because they rode in the dinosaurs never stopping to think of the progress made in modern cabovers. The Europeans are very progressive and put allot of engineering into comfort.The problem is, no one sells them in the US. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1556-too-ugly-for-words/#findComment-8172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GearheadGrrrl Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 With the Mack and Volvo versions of the MP7 engines being so similar, it wouldn't be hard to do.It still amazes me that Volvo North America isn't offering FM/FH cabovers here- there are some big fleets that still need cabovers for some of their operations and Volvo is losing them to DCX with their Argosy. For example, Interstate Bakeries uses conventionals for most of their operations, but they still need cabovers for the Northwest where they use drom boxes and for turnpike doubles in some states. The twin steering axles would work well for droms and truck and trailer combinations too. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1556-too-ugly-for-words/#findComment-8183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishhook Posted November 4, 2006 Author Share Posted November 4, 2006 Volvo is losing them to DCX with their Argosy.Nope, cant get the Argosy in the states anymore either. There are no class 8 cabovers at all.Although they all still produce them for Australia/New Zealand. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1556-too-ugly-for-words/#findComment-8186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GearheadGrrrl Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 The Argosy is still on the Freightliner web site, so I assume it's still available. The Condor low cabover is hiding though- it's not listed with the other models but if you do a search you'll find it. Not sure if the Condor is discontinued or the DCX legal department is just hiding the Condor to make it look like Volvo corporation has a monopoly on that market. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1556-too-ugly-for-words/#findComment-8187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Wright Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Those Magnums are pretty funky to drive alongside. The cab floats around on top of the other half. Must be a smooth ride if not an out of touch one!CheersAndy Quote Whatever rubs your buddah. The Mack E Model Registry - 103 entries The Mack A Model Registry - 14 entries Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1556-too-ugly-for-words/#findComment-8222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishhook Posted November 11, 2006 Author Share Posted November 11, 2006 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1556-too-ugly-for-words/#findComment-8309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
granitefan713 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Not a big fan of that one. Quote http://www.flickr.com/photos/granitefan713/-Dave Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/1556-too-ugly-for-words/#findComment-8600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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