joes mack Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 here are some pics i promised to get of some of the trucks where i work here is the pete with mack rears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joes mack Posted October 12, 2010 Author Share Posted October 12, 2010 here are some more. here is the tag of the trans and aux ive never herd of a 6-4. there are more but i didnt get to get pic of them. joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajt3138 Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 what do you haul that the hinge point for the bed is so far forward of the rear of the box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joes mack Posted October 12, 2010 Author Share Posted October 12, 2010 they are all coal trucks with 21-22 foot beds they will haul 50+ tons of dirty coal and about 35-36 tons of clean coal with no problem. joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Some nice "brute" trucks there. There are a couple of reasons for installing Mack rears under a Pete:1: To extend it's agony on earth as in revenge.2: To lessen the chance of the driver having to return on foot, or a hook, as tow bills are EXPENSIVE!Either way, A mistake in my opinion, as one should let sleeping dogs lye.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joes mack Posted October 12, 2010 Author Share Posted October 12, 2010 the good thing about it is they are going to part it out for extra parts and scrap the cab and frame. joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 the good thing about it is they are going to part it out for extra parts and scrap the cab and frame. joeLooks like that truck has an aluminum frame.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joes mack Posted October 12, 2010 Author Share Posted October 12, 2010 most of the RDs are early to mid 80s 2are 91s and the one with the 427 is a 03 and it has almost as much power as the granites with the 485 mp8s.joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joes mack Posted October 12, 2010 Author Share Posted October 12, 2010 its tripple steel just like the macks except the front area the holes for the susp is drilled dif for the weard front axle thats under it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randyp Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 its tripple steel just like the macks except the front area the holes for the susp is drilled dif for the weard front axle thats under it.Thats some nice looking trucks, dont know laws in other states, do those trucks haul coal strictly offroad? Here in Texas, they wouldnt be legal with dump beds that far behind rear axle, DOT around here would probably get out with guns drawn and cocked,,,,randy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Some nice "brute" trucks there. There are a couple of reasons for installing Mack rears under a Pete:1: To extend it's agony on earth as in revenge.2: To lessen the chance of the driver having to return on foot, or a hook, as tow bills are EXPENSIVE!Either way, A mistake in my opinion, as one should let sleeping dogs lye.RobHi,my name is Tom...and...and I...OK, I drive a Peterbilt! It's in the shop right now with the engine light on again. Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Hi,my name is Tom...and...and I...OK, I drive a Peterbilt! It's in the shop right now with the engine light on again.Hi Tom, my name is Rob. You drive, (or make attempt) one of them things???? I hear the engine light in those trucks is to make for easy map reading to the nearest Pete dealer for repairs? I'm also told the newer ones use a talking GPS to tell you how far the next repair shop is, and every two minutes, recite the telephone number!!Ain't technology great? Damn, that truck has got to be frustrating.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joes mack Posted October 12, 2010 Author Share Posted October 12, 2010 hi randy the legal load limit in ky with the over weight permit is 94,500 on a tandem 120,000 with a tractor trailer. most times the trucks are way over weight so you can make a little money until the dot is around then its legal agin till there gone. cant remember the correct laws on over hang i think its 2 1/2 feet for them to be legal on the highway. most of them have car catchers under the rear of the bed at the legal space but with beds that long it makes dumping in a hopper or bin a pain in the butt without tearing the car catcher off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joes mack Posted October 12, 2010 Author Share Posted October 12, 2010 rob i took the pic of the 1968 r600 just for you i thought you would like it. having a soft spot for models and all.its got a hyd boom on it that will pick up about 12 tons all day long. i herd that the new petes will have heated frontends so tom wont have to worry about the wrecker driver getting frost bit hands in the winter tryin to hook the chains...joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Hi Tom, my name is Rob. You drive, (or make attempt) one of them things???? I hear the engine light in those trucks is to make for easy map reading to the nearest Pete dealer for repairs? I'm also told the newer ones use a talking GPS to tell you how far the next repair shop is, and every two minutes, recite the telephone number!!Ain't technology great? Damn, that truck has got to be frustrating.Robit is, it derates itself when the light comes on and it came on just as I got to Woodstock Sunday night,then I had 2 more stops in Md. and De.Probably came on because I was just telling another driver Friday that I hadn't had any trouble for a long time.This truck is a 2006 model and this driver that I was talking to was loading Kubotas in Ga. too. He drove for H.H.Moore a long time ago,then got his own truck,leased to Landstar now I think. He was saying Cat had a lot of engine problems in '06 and '07. He must be right.By the way, I was reading a truck paper a week or so ago and it said 55% of owners reported problems in new engines last year,up from 25% the year before,before the newest emissions laws took effect.Said the engines with the fewest reported problems was Detroit Diesel. Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 here is the tag of the trans and aux ive never herd of a 6-4. I've heard of a 6 and 4 but hadn't seen one before. saw this Freightliner with a 7 and 4 and a Peterbilt cap at the show in Colfax last year. Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambi80 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 By the way, I was reading a truck paper a week or so ago and it said 55% of owners reported problems in new engines last year,up from 25% the year before,before the newest emissions laws took effect.Said the engines with the fewest reported problems was Detroit Diesel.In my neck of the woods, the drivers of Detroit Diesels would be less inclined to report problems due to the inability to make the language... Quote Ever wonder how a blind person knows when to stop wiping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRebel Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 I've heard of a 6 and 4 but hadn't seen one before. saw this Freightliner with a 7 and 4 and a Peterbilt cap at the show in Colfax last year.I used to drive an International 4700 series rollback with a DT466 and what they called the "6 plus" transmission....same 7 speed shift pattern, but without the 4 speed aux. trans....1st was labeled as "L", and every gear was 1 number lower.R135L246Loved that truck. Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Rowdy...I drove a few DT466 with the 6 plus trans. Loved the trucks as they had power and did very well for its size. But I really dont like that transmission. the gate pattern was to tight and I think those transmissions were synqronized? (sp?) I could not shift that thing smooth unless I used the clutch. I always was banging into 2nd and could never find 4th at the right time. The ratio step was great but just never could shift them smooth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Rowdy...I drove a few DT466 with the 6 plus trans. Loved the trucks as they had power and did very well for its size. But I really dont like that transmission. the gate pattern was to tight and I think those transmissions were synqronized? (sp?) I could not shift that thing smooth unless I used the clutch. I always was banging into 2nd and could never find 4th at the right time. The ratio step was great but just never could shift them smooth?I had one too that lost the countergear thrust washer and ate the case. I replaced it with a small nine speed direct and it was a world of difference with three wrecks on.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaddeusW Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Spicer at one time made a heavy duty 6 speed and I have seen plenty in front of a 4 speed aux for a 6x4 setup. TTC (Spicer) still makes a heavy 6 speed that can take 1400 ft/lbs, they also make the heavy 2 and 4 speed aux boxes too. Eaton also made up until recently a heavy duty 7 speed as well.Rowdy...I drove a few DT466 with the 6 plus trans. Loved the trucks as they had power and did very well for its size. But I really dont like that transmission. the gate pattern was to tight and I think those transmissions were synqronized? (sp?) I could not shift that thing smooth unless I used the clutch. I always was banging into 2nd and could never find 4th at the right time. The ratio step was great but just never could shift them smooth?Those synchro boxes are annoying. Drove an IH rental with a 6 speed and if you woud it up to the gorvenor it would shift without the clutch, if you were lucky. Our GMC has a 4 speed synchro and when I first drove it all the synchros were already burnt out which made it shift nice and smooth. Then when it was rebuilt and synchros replaced is a pain to shift, wish the mechanic left the synchros alone lol.I fell bad for the Europeans, that all they have over there, synchro boxes. Quote -Thad What America needs is less bull and more Bulldog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Well both trucks were well maintained and had about the same miles (250k) but yea they came out of gear easy but never liked to go back in. Just not my style of driving I guess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRebel Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Rowdy...I drove a few DT466 with the 6 plus trans. Loved the trucks as they had power and did very well for its size. But I really dont like that transmission. the gate pattern was to tight and I think those transmissions were synqronized? (sp?) I could not shift that thing smooth unless I used the clutch. I always was banging into 2nd and could never find 4th at the right time. The ratio step was great but just never could shift them smooth?That was before I got my CDL and started driving bigger trucks. I had always used the clutch in my pickup, so its what I used to. Shifted just fine for me with the clutch. Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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