single drive Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 hello all, i am new to this website and a first time mack owner. I have had previous dealings with macks but not of my own. I just purchased a 67 mack R609, the title reads # R609T6262, it has an original looking R600 emblem on the side of cab but i have gathered it is a R609T model. Im not sure what is different with the R609T. The dealer tells me that the original motor is a END707, from what i have found it sounds like that is a gas motor but it is a diesel and the #6262 is in the side of block. Im having trouble finding oil filters for it. It has a five and three tri-plex in it and is a single axle dump truck. The motor appears to be original but im not for sure. i will attach a few photos of the motor. Any help with info on what it is and possibly how much power it has would b appreciated. thank you Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19102-67-mack-r609t/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 i think its a 250 hp,,but im not sure it should be a end673 for that year.. its cubic inches,,u need to buy a motor manual,,it will give you all the specs,and show you were the id numbers are..also if your having trouble finding those sock oil filters,mack sells a conversion kit for spin ons.welcome aboard,and lotsa luck with it..bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19102-67-mack-r609t/#findComment-77914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhasler Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Built 4.24.67. END707 engine, FA534 front axle, TRT722 transmission, CRD117 4.88 ratio rear end, 8 leaf rear spring suspension when it left the factory.Find the 11GB number on the engine and I'll see if I can find out what engine you have in it now. Quote "Mebbe I'm too ugly and stupid to give up!" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19102-67-mack-r609t/#findComment-77917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog13407 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 End707 is a diesel. think its around 200 hp or 210. i have on in my B61. good running engine, basically the same as a 711, Matt Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19102-67-mack-r609t/#findComment-77928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
single drive Posted May 17, 2011 Author Share Posted May 17, 2011 Built 4.24.67. END707 engine, FA534 front axle, TRT722 transmission, CRD117 4.88 ratio rear end, 8 leaf rear spring suspension when it left the factory.Find the 11GB number on the engine and I'll see if I can find out what engine you have in it now.I apreciate all the info, i will have to check out the motor numbers in a few weeks when i get back from work. Is there any books still available that a person can get the vin# info and other specs from? Thanks you for the help thus far, and thank you to the others who have posted thoughts and info. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19102-67-mack-r609t/#findComment-77961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Man, that engine does look like a END 673P because the intake runners look the same, the same oiling system with the duplex clairifier with three hoses mounted high. If the Vin# Plate is on the right passenger door it should have the number you need. Then it could be traced for you by calling the Mack Museum. Nice looking Truck mike Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19102-67-mack-r609t/#findComment-77964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 The emblems on the side were always just the basic model number(like yours 600), then the last digits denoted engine/chassis style( "09T"). "T" is single axle tractor, if it was "ST", it would be a tandem. The "6262" is the consecutive serial number. Since it's on the block, it's likely the original motor.Have to agree with mike, the split intake makes it look like a 673P(like mine too), but maybe the 711/707 came with that intake also? It's apparent it's a non turbo motor, so likely 200 hp(as shown in my Mack book). If you look closely down at the front passenger side of motor, the casting by the front of the accessory drive(in front of injection pump), you'll see the motor number stamped across the top. Just walk to the front of the tire and look and you should see it easy being a tilt front end. Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19102-67-mack-r609t/#findComment-77968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack4ever Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 the outside of the engine looks the same as mine.mine is a 1966 r600 with a 711 non turbo engine.but it`s a r607tmack4ever. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19102-67-mack-r609t/#findComment-77970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 i thought the t was turbo,,got that rite from a mack employee like 20 years ago,,this truck has got me crazy now,,,ive got manuals i bought in 82,,but thier buried...i was hoping someone else could fill him in,but if not, i could go dig them out..bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19102-67-mack-r609t/#findComment-77971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhasler Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 i thought the t was turbo,,got that rite from a mack employee like 20 years ago,,this truck has got me crazy now,,,ive got manuals i bought in 82,,but thier buried...i was hoping someone else could fill him in,but if not, i could go dig them out..bobTis' as Freighttrain has said. T in the chassis is for tractor. T in the engine ID is turbo. Quote "Mebbe I'm too ugly and stupid to give up!" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19102-67-mack-r609t/#findComment-77975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiant2 Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 LOOKS LIKE A NICE LITTLE TRUCK. SAY IT LISTED ON E-BAY BOUT A WEEK OR SO AGO. GG2 Quote We the unwilling, Lead by the unqualified, are doing the impossible, for the ungrateful. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19102-67-mack-r609t/#findComment-77979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
single drive Posted May 18, 2011 Author Share Posted May 18, 2011 LOOKS LIKE A NICE LITTLE TRUCK. SAY IT LISTED ON E-BAY BOUT A WEEK OR SO AGO. GG2I should have the engine number later tonight after my brother gets home to look at it for me. The truck seems to b pretty decent i drove it about 260 miles from west milwaukee back to my house with no problems on saturday, then around town a little on sunday and moved 3 loads of grael across my property with it with no problems. Im pretty happy with it so far, beats the heck outta the rusted out 80s international or gmc that i was lookn at for about the same price. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19102-67-mack-r609t/#findComment-77980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Tis' as Freighttrain has said. T in the chassis is for tractor. T in the engine ID is turbo.ah,,,appreciate the heads up,,hehe,,,bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19102-67-mack-r609t/#findComment-77991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 but now im still confused,cause mine says t,an its a 3 axle dump truck,mack bogies,ahhhhhh,,,who knows....well figure it out...bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19102-67-mack-r609t/#findComment-77996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxidyne237 Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Oil filter is still readily available. Cross reference it into what ever brand you want. Mack # 236GB311A Fleetguard# lf577 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19102-67-mack-r609t/#findComment-78005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog13407 Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 i believe all the end673p, end711 and end707 engines have the split intake manifolds. at least everyone i have ever seen did. ~Matt Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19102-67-mack-r609t/#findComment-78023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 I read someplace the split manifold came out in the 1962 model year. Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19102-67-mack-r609t/#findComment-78025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 but now im still confused,cause mine says t,an its a 3 axle dump truck,mack bogies,ahhhhhh,,,who knows....well figure it out...bobSomeone stuck a set of tandems under it sometime in it's life. Worse things have been done!My truck is titled a '59(door tag), though the frame is serial numbered somewhere around 1962-ish. So, if the split manifold came out around then, that is why mine has it.The picture in my Mack off highway repair book showed the 707/711 with a single intake and spin on filters. Revision in back states 10/79 for book TS442. Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19102-67-mack-r609t/#findComment-78026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 In my MOTOR'S Truck Manual it shows that the 673 & 711 were a split head engine, so i'm to believe that the two engines could interchange parts if need be. He will have to get the numbers off the engine to know for sure. mike Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19102-67-mack-r609t/#findComment-78036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 well,all that aside,i didnt know,they were still using no turbo engines in 67..ive owned 5 macks,and did a few inframes,, but i dont claim to be an expert,it was all in conversation..also im out of practice ive been driving cummins trucks the past 20 years.hehe,thanks for the update...from 66 to 94 when i bought it,i suppose they could have done alotta changes,i was only 10 when it was new,and too far away to notice,,,bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19102-67-mack-r609t/#findComment-78038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
single drive Posted May 19, 2011 Author Share Posted May 19, 2011 In my MOTOR'S Truck Manual it shows that the 673 & 711 were a split head engine, so i'm to believe that the two engines could interchange parts if need be. He will have to get the numbers off the engine to know for sure. mikeMy brother read the numbers off the block to me last night but i didnt have any way to write them down, as i was in the truck stop sandwich store. but the manufacture date was july or august of 66. i will have a pic of them tonight, and a pic of the numbers off the rear of block Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19102-67-mack-r609t/#findComment-78039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
single drive Posted May 20, 2011 Author Share Posted May 20, 2011 this is the pic of the number on the rear of the block. The number on the front by acc drive is as follows. for some reason i couldnt get the pic to upload. 7 29 66 Q3 2603412aPic.zip Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19102-67-mack-r609t/#findComment-78065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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