Rob Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 I've heard the term but have never seen one. What is different from a standard 10 speed?Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19605-what-is-a-fuller-super-10/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 you have to split every gear,,like a two stick,sept with a switch,like the mack was,or maybe still is,,bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19605-what-is-a-fuller-super-10/#findComment-80811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Maney Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 I believe it is like a TRGL-1070, basically a five speed that you can split every gear. My '82 has the TRGL-1070 and it works great. There are alot of people around that would like to have that transmission for their trucks. Quote Interested in Old Trucks? Check out: www.antiquetruckclubofamerica.org Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19605-what-is-a-fuller-super-10/#findComment-80812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted July 2, 2011 Author Share Posted July 2, 2011 My RL797L has a TRDL 107 trans you split every gear. I really like this trans. Didn't know Fuller made a copy to the Mack style which I assume it is.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19605-what-is-a-fuller-super-10/#findComment-80814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 i drove one in a pete,i didnt like it,but it had the electric gas pedal shut off,that only gave you like 1700 rpm,s so if you were on a slight grade,and shifting up from a traffic light,buy the time you let the gas off the truck would slow down too fast and wouldnt click into hi,,it was a pain in the ass,,would have been ok with a little more throttle,,,who the hell designs this rediculous stuff..bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19605-what-is-a-fuller-super-10/#findComment-80815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 My RL797L has a TRDL 107 trans you split every gear. I really like this trans. Didn't know Fuller made a copy to the Mack style which I assume it is.Robdont think they lasted long,,dont hear much about them,seems they were around from like late 80,s to early ninty,s.bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19605-what-is-a-fuller-super-10/#findComment-80816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bollweevil Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 i drove one in a pete,i didnt like it,but it had the electric gas pedal shut off,that only gave you like 1700 rpm,s so if you were on a slight grade,and shifting up from a traffic light,buy the time you let the gas off the truck would slow down too fast and wouldnt click into hi,,it was a pain in the ass,,would have been ok with a little more throttle,,,who the hell designs this rediculous stuff..bob a worthless piece of junk Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19605-what-is-a-fuller-super-10/#findComment-80817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted July 2, 2011 Author Share Posted July 2, 2011 i drove one in a pete,i didnt like it,but it had the electric gas pedal shut off,that only gave you like 1700 rpm,s so if you were on a slight grade,and shifting up from a traffic light,buy the time you let the gas off the truck would slow down too fast and wouldnt click into hi,,it was a pain in the ass,,would have been ok with a little more throttle,,,who the hell designs this rediculous stuff..bobMaybe they thought it was faster than a camel.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19605-what-is-a-fuller-super-10/#findComment-80818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Maybe they thought it was faster than a camel.Robi suppose thats a good point.lol...bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19605-what-is-a-fuller-super-10/#findComment-80819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 a worthless piece of junkya mean the pete or the trans?we had a bunch of them in our older kenworths,everyone hated them..bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19605-what-is-a-fuller-super-10/#findComment-80820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 i drove one in a pete,i didnt like it,but it had the electric gas pedal shut off,that only gave you like 1700 rpm,s so if you were on a slight grade,and shifting up from a traffic light,buy the time you let the gas off the truck would slow down too fast and wouldnt click into hi,,it was a pain in the ass,,would have been ok with a little more throttle,,,who the hell designs this rediculous stuff..bobI totally agree, I hated them too. First gear wasn't low enough, and they shifted way too slow, you had to wait on it. I drove a couple of Internationals that had them. We found that when taking off like you're talking about if you moved the button, then took the stick out of gear and put it back in they shifted ok, but that's still a pain in the ass.It's about the same as having a 5 speed and 2 speed axle. Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19605-what-is-a-fuller-super-10/#findComment-80822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Here is what eaton said when they designed it. The driver will only have to move the stick half the times that a straight 10 will be shifted. There was no need in this trans but if you would shift it in neutral ever time it was a smooth trans. In stead most drivers did as eaton ask and that was shift the splitter while in gear. But the best way was to slid into neutral and then split it was so smooth.I have been in alot of them and when they first came out. The second gear had a update and it had a wider gear installed.They were ok for a 2100 rpm engine.The real reason i think was they could with a 60S engine make a top 2 out of them. The engine ecm would if programed to do so, shift the top two gears back and forth by the ecm. No matter were you gas petdal was it would shift and set the gas pedtal back were it need be by its self.Down shift and up shift for 9 and 10 gear.Most guys did not like that and had that deleted in the ecm. Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19605-what-is-a-fuller-super-10/#findComment-80823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 I totally agree, I hated them too. First gear wasn't low enough, and they shifted way too slow, you had to wait on it. I drove a couple of Internationals that had them. We found that when taking off like you're talking about if you moved the button, then took the stick out of gear and put it back in they shifted ok, but that's still a pain in the ass.It's about the same as having a 5 speed and 2 speed axle.oh ya,,,those 2 speed axles were also a nightmare,,half the time they wouldnt go in,,oh by the way welcome back bill,,do you get any extra time off? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19605-what-is-a-fuller-super-10/#findComment-80824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted July 2, 2011 Author Share Posted July 2, 2011 oh ya,,,those 2 speed axles were also a nightmare,,half the time they wouldnt go in,,oh by the way welcome back bill,,do you get any extra time off?I always like an air shift two speed rear. They were fast and sure. An electric I didn't like quite so well cause they were sloppy.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19605-what-is-a-fuller-super-10/#findComment-80825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 I always like an air shift two speed rear. They were fast and sure. An electric I didn't like quite so well cause they were sloppy.Robthat sounds good,,both i drove had electric,not a good setup,bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19605-what-is-a-fuller-super-10/#findComment-80828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Here is what eaton said when they designed it. The driver will only have to move the stick half the times that a straight 10 will be shifted. There was no need in this trans but if you would shift it in neutral ever time it was a smooth trans. In stead most drivers did as eaton ask and that was shift the splitter while in gear. But the best way was to slid into neutral and then split it was so smooth.I have been in alot of them and when they first came out. The second gear had a update and it had a wider gear installed.They were ok for a 2100 rpm engine.The real reason i think was they could with a 60S engine make a top 2 out of them. The engine ecm would if programed to do so, shift the top two gears back and forth by the ecm. No matter were you gas petdal was it would shift and set the gas pedtal back were it need be by its self.Down shift and up shift for 9 and 10 gear.Most guys did not like that and had that deleted in the ecm.well i think the bottom line is once a guy gets used to a straight fuller ten,,they are like walking backwards,,thier kind of fun,but have to pay attention at all times,,soon as start daydreaming,or talkin on the cb,automaticly start grinding gears Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19605-what-is-a-fuller-super-10/#findComment-80830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyGunner Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 A guy who ran bullracks with me had one in his KW and I remember when he wanted the HP turned up to 525 they told him the transmission wasnt rated for that much power. Dont know where it was set at before he had the hp turned up. Seemed like a pointless tranny to put in a truck with a high hp engine to me. Quote The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by the people who vote for a living.The government can only "give" someone what they first take from another. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19605-what-is-a-fuller-super-10/#findComment-80838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 A guy who ran bullracks with me had one in his KW and I remember when he wanted the HP turned up to 525 they told him the transmission wasnt rated for that much power. Dont know where it was set at before he had the hp turned up. Seemed like a pointless tranny to put in a truck with a high hp engine to me.They are like all other trans some models are for smaller torque and others for higher torque. The most common one was RTLO16710. Its good for most all 470 DD and larger cats.Go for 1650 ft/lbs Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19605-what-is-a-fuller-super-10/#findComment-80839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullhusk Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Rob, Shifts like a Mack UniShift From the 50's an early 60's BULLHUSK Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19605-what-is-a-fuller-super-10/#findComment-80841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted July 2, 2011 Author Share Posted July 2, 2011 Rob, Shifts like a Mack UniShift From the 50's an early 60's BULLHUSKThat was a good smooth transmission if taken care of. One of my B models had one but it's long gone. Still have the cylinder and linkage for it someplace. I purchased/acquired the truck minus the trans and installed a double over triplex.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19605-what-is-a-fuller-super-10/#findComment-80845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 well i think the bottom line is once a guy gets used to a straight fuller ten,,they are like walking backwards,,thier kind of fun,but have to pay attention at all times,,soon as start daydreaming,or talkin on the cb,automaticly start grinding gearsI always considered a 10 speed roadranger the easiest and simplest transmission out there. A driver that's too lazy to shift one oughta be doing something else anyway, just my opinion. Kinda sounds like "we're gonna make this super 10 for drivers that are too lazy to shift a regular 10 speed-maybe they can find the energy to flip a button" Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19605-what-is-a-fuller-super-10/#findComment-80862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 They are like all other trans some models are for smaller torque and others for higher torque. The most common one was RTLO16710. Its good for most all 470 DD and larger cats.Go for 1650 ft/lbsThe IH's I drove both had N14 460 Cummins engines turned up to 500 hp. Don't remember the torque rating, but it was probably 1550. Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19605-what-is-a-fuller-super-10/#findComment-80863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 I always considered a 10 speed roadranger the easiest and simplest transmission out there. A driver that's too lazy to shift one oughta be doing something else anyway, just my opinion. Kinda sounds like "we're gonna make this super 10 for drivers that are too lazy to shift a regular 10 speed-maybe they can find the energy to flip a button" It was a another selling point to fleets by eaton. Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19605-what-is-a-fuller-super-10/#findComment-80868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slpwlker Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Drvoe one never cared for it and that was only bobtail. I liked the straight ten alot better. But sumed up best is it is a hunk of junk Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19605-what-is-a-fuller-super-10/#findComment-80869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 That was a good smooth transmission if taken care of. One of my B models had one but it's long gone. Still have the cylinder and linkage for it someplace. I purchased/acquired the truck minus the trans and installed a double over triplex.Roboh man,,,i forgot about that thing,,,, had one in an f model,,it was also a piece a shit,air shift,it would hang up in nuetral,especialy when it was cold,i even tryed rebuilding the clylinder,still did it,lol boat,,anchor baby...bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/19605-what-is-a-fuller-super-10/#findComment-80872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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