olivier426hemi Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Hello,I looking at buying a 1993 Mack CL643. The truck is 1 of 1 on the build sheet. It has a Factory450hp Detroit Engine, Mack 18-speed trans, and Mack 40,000 Rears with air suspension. The truck also has double steering boxes. It was also built for canada so it has a double frame. The Truck is loaded with options, aluminum wheels, skirts, sliding fifth wheel, power windows/locks, all guages, elite edition, Big sleeper with wood cabinets, roof console, 8 speaker radio, A/C / Heat Control in sleeper, this is just to name a few. Now my question is: Is this truck something that should be restored and once restored what could it be worth? Also how much do you thinkit is worth in original unrestored condition? I included a picture so you can see what it looks like.ThanksOlivier Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/2064-looking-to-buy-a-mack-but-dont-know-what-to-do/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 That is a nice looking truck! I am not sure of it's worth, but I'm sure it would be worth hanging onto... Quote Barry - Watt's Truck Center Parts Manager and BMT Webmaster...1-888-304-MACK Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/2064-looking-to-buy-a-mack-but-dont-know-what-to-do/#findComment-9969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudslut28 Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Its a fine looking truck that is spec'd pretty well. First one I have ever heard of with a 60 series for sure. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/2064-looking-to-buy-a-mack-but-dont-know-what-to-do/#findComment-9996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jward Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Are you sure it's got a detroit? Good motor for on the highway only, but for anything else it is pretty much worthless. Kind of demeans the truck,no offense meant. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/2064-looking-to-buy-a-mack-but-dont-know-what-to-do/#findComment-11161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaeusler Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 I don't think your truck came with the detroit in it from the factory. Does the spec sheet call for it to have a detroit? The reason I ask is because of the Gold Bulldog on the hood. I am pretty sure that Gold Bull Dogs only went on trucks that were all Mack. Pedigree is the word the company used. Meaning it had a Mack engine, and transmission. I could be wrong about that because the CL was available with other Manufacturer's engines, But would have had a silver dog and silver stand for the bull dog. Getting a Gold aftermarket bulldog would be no problem. It is a good looking truck though. If the price is right go for it. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/2064-looking-to-buy-a-mack-but-dont-know-what-to-do/#findComment-11172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdog Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 I don't think your truck came with the detroit in it from the factory. Does the spec sheet call for it to have a detroit? The reason I ask is because of the Gold Bulldog on the hood. I am pretty sure that Gold Bull Dogs only went on trucks that were all Mack. Pedigree is the word the company used. Meaning it had a Mack engine, and transmission. I could be wrong about that because the CL was available with other Manufacturer's engines, But would have had a silver dog and silver stand for the bull dog. Getting a Gold aftermarket bulldog would be no problem. It is a good looking truck though. If the price is right go for it. The gold Bulldog was part of the "Elite" package,first time it was brought back since they quit putting them on Maxidyne powered Macks in '81.In '95 gold Bulldogs returned on all Mack component Mack's. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/2064-looking-to-buy-a-mack-but-dont-know-what-to-do/#findComment-11190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivier426hemi Posted March 18, 2007 Author Share Posted March 18, 2007 I got the build sheet by the dealership with the VIN number and yeah its an original mack equiped with a detroit 60 engine Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/2064-looking-to-buy-a-mack-but-dont-know-what-to-do/#findComment-11240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 So the "Elite" pkg.,I'd assume,was a truck with "all the bells & whistles"? Cool truck-I vote that if the price is reasonable,you should jump on it,if for no other reason than being 1 of 1 build! In collections.the first and last built of anything are worth more than the ones in between. Speed Quote "Remember-ANY Gun Control is Unconstitutional!"<!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><i><b>MACK-E Model Registry # 36</b></i><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--><a href="http://www.nvabatetravel.com/"target="_blank">http://www.nvabatetravel.com/</a> Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/2064-looking-to-buy-a-mack-but-dont-know-what-to-do/#findComment-11248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog man Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 OLIVIER 46HEMI To BMT GLAD TO HAVE ya here thats 1 good lookin CL ELITE there too yup the "Elite" pkg was the "cadilac" pkgfor the CL Models 1st CL Ive herd of w/ a 60 series in it but i knew Cummins was an option in the CL Models as well . later Quote You Cant Fix Stupid. But You Can Numb It With A Sledgehammer. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/2064-looking-to-buy-a-mack-but-dont-know-what-to-do/#findComment-11253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaeusler Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Although the truck is a beauty. I wouldn't read too much into the 1 of 1 on the build sheet. All that 1 of 1 means is that this particular customer only ordered 1 truck. If the customer was somebody like UPS or one of the other fleets it may be 1 of 3000, or even 2000 of 3000. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/2064-looking-to-buy-a-mack-but-dont-know-what-to-do/#findComment-11265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 She's definitely built for heavy haulin' with the drivers comfort in mind. Buy it for the best price you can,put her to work,take good care of her,and she'll last you forever.And just think of all the exercise you can get when your not drivin' (doin' jumpin jacks in the sleeper,lol).Good luck,TOMBSTONE. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/2064-looking-to-buy-a-mack-but-dont-know-what-to-do/#findComment-11362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry T Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 "So the "Elite" pkg.,I'd assume,was a truck with "all the bells & whistles"?" Speed Well kinda Speed.... The Elite package was the most plush package, but you still had to spec power windows, power locks, Alpine or Panasonic stereo etc. The Elite trim was either gray or maroon cloth with overhead speakers in the cab for both driver and passenger, wood grain dash inserts, etc. Both of the attached CH613's had the "Elite" package, no power windows, R side power lock, no moto mirrors, one had a Panasonic stereo system, the other I switched in a complete Pioneer systems with disc changer. CL643, sounds like that one of one is fairly accurate. Most were CL6XX's were613's with E9 500's or E7's of various HP ratings. Unfortunately, putting a value on it is difficult as the only people who understand the true value of a rare commercial truck such as this appears to be, are typically us dirt poor truck drivers! It is worth what ever it is worth to you and not much more. I am not a Detroit fan, but because this truck is unusual, if I had the money and time, I would buy it.T. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/2064-looking-to-buy-a-mack-but-dont-know-what-to-do/#findComment-11461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaddeusW Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 Are you sure it's got a detroit? Good motor for on the highway only, but for anything else it is pretty much worthless. Kind of demeans the truck,no offense meant. I wouldn't be too hard on the Detroit as allot of guys swear by them. Quote -Thad What America needs is less bull and more Bulldog! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/2064-looking-to-buy-a-mack-but-dont-know-what-to-do/#findComment-11463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCDriver Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 I wouldn't be too hard on the Detroit as allot of guys swear by them.Or at them.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/2064-looking-to-buy-a-mack-but-dont-know-what-to-do/#findComment-11506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog man Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 ive done both ive swore by them for fuel milage but also have swore @ them for pulling hills so damn slow too later Quote You Cant Fix Stupid. But You Can Numb It With A Sledgehammer. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/2064-looking-to-buy-a-mack-but-dont-know-what-to-do/#findComment-11545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jward Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 I wouldn't be too hard on the Detroit as allot of guys swear by them. Yea you're right,like I said I didn't mean any offense,I guess I came across stronger than I meant it. My buddy has a detroit in his 96 Binder and its been a good motor,they just aren't real torquey. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/2064-looking-to-buy-a-mack-but-dont-know-what-to-do/#findComment-11939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8superdog Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 i thought all CL's were CL7XX's, not 6XX's? Quote 1993 Mack CH613 350 V-mac complete with Blixxton II module, RTX14710B Fuller tranny, 4.17 ratio 38K camelback rears, converted to 5-axle dump truck in 1999. Over 1 Million miles and counting on original motor Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/2064-looking-to-buy-a-mack-but-dont-know-what-to-do/#findComment-17501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM6285 Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Are you sure it's got a detroit? Good motor for on the highway only, but for anything else it is pretty much worthless. Kind of demeans the truck,no offense meant. Those DETROIT DIESEL SERIES 60 are worthless motors. Think about that they have been arround since 1987 and DETROIT DIESEL still sells that trash of an engine.Better go find one with the E-7 or E-9 engines and an all mack powertrain Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/2064-looking-to-buy-a-mack-but-dont-know-what-to-do/#findComment-17646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD40T2 Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 nice looking CL, my last truck had a 60 series, which was the first 60 series that I ever drove('97 freightshaker) and I had no coplaints at all and i think it had better low end grunt than my '07 Mack with a 465 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/2064-looking-to-buy-a-mack-but-dont-know-what-to-do/#findComment-17670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry T Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 i thought all CL's were CL7XX's, not 6XX's? In the early '90's CL600's and CL700's were available. Not sure which year, '97 or '98 maybe, Mack dropped the CL600's. The Franklin Mint 1/32 scale model that was very popular was a CL613 with an E9 500. I believe Mack dropped the CL600 when they dropped the E9. The CL as a road tractor really wasn't all that popular, although I sure would have liked to have a CL613 E9 500/2180 with the 60" standup bunk. The pic is of the 3 CL613's I currently own, the only ones I will ever be able to afford to own!T. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/2064-looking-to-buy-a-mack-but-dont-know-what-to-do/#findComment-17697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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