Rob Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I need to measure the bottom radiator tank on my R795 truck so I start it up, let the air build, release the brakes to back it to a spot in the driveway and what the HELL happens? It runs outta fuel in the driveway blocking the front overhead door to the shop!!Well having a belly ache from eating at the cheap chinese joint for lunch and being loaded with gas myself, I just didn't feel like screwing with it tonight. I dropped the overhead door, shut the lights out and went home to play with the grandaughter.Now I'm going to bed cause I feel if I stay up much longer I'm gonna puke. Man driving all that distance in that short of time must not be for me anymore.....Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randyp Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Fuel starvation seems to be a re-occurring theme with you, you may be distant kin to my silly ass wife,,,randyp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vision386 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Now Now Randy,be nice! you know we all have to be politically correct, maybe Rob is just" PET-TRO-LY-UMLY challenged"?...................................Mark Quote Mack Truck literate. Computer illiterate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randyp Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 heh heh,,politics dont have nothing to do with running out of fuel,,,,randyp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvam Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Don't pick on Rob. He is being politically correct and reducing his carbon footprint..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted October 6, 2011 Author Share Posted October 6, 2011 Yup, this son-of-a-bitch done bit me in the ass tonight too. I dumped 20 gallon of fuel in the tank, filled the filters, applied 25psi to the fuel tank to speed the process. While cranking the engine, I hear a strange "pop" on the side of the truck. This concerns me so I get out of the truck, walk around to the other side to discover the lower sump blown out of the tank along with 15 plus gallons on diesel fuel in the driveway. I captured about three gallons when it was all said and done.I guess the good side is that randyp has my gorilla so I don't have to starve her a week to make up for the loss. "Mouser 1" earns his keep, so he is out. The grandaughter is special, so she is alright, Nikki is the new mother so she is safe. Looks like "Momma" is gonna be mad at me again.........I have extra tanks so that is not really a loss.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Sounds like our luck is about the same. Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajt3138 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 just like the old hee haw song-------if it werent for bad luck id have no luck at all. gloom despair and agony on me.or sompthin like dat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 hey, on a good note- I did score this brand new Delco Remy alternator today for $50. Came out of the parts room and doesn't fit anything we have anymore, all the newer truck alternators are side mount. I'm gonna go put it on tomorrow. Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Fuel starvation seems to be a re-occurring theme with you, you may be distant kin to my silly ass wife,,,randypOnce upon a time a Swift driver was traveling through central Illinois. He saw a man in his driveway looking into the fuel tank of an R-model Mack with a flashlight.So he stops and says "hey, are you out of fuel?"The man in the driveway says "naw, i'm from right here in Farmington, where are you outa'?" 1 Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcity Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Once upon a time a Swift driver was traveling through central Illinois. He saw a man in his driveway looking into the fuel tank of an R-model Mack with a flashlight.So he stops and says "hey, are you out of fuel?"The man in the driveway says "naw, i'm from right here in Farmington, where are you outa'?"Boo-hiss Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leversole Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Once upon a time a Swift driver was traveling through central Illinois. He saw a man in his driveway looking into the fuel tank of an R-model Mack with a flashlight.So he stops and says "hey, are you out of fuel?"The man in the driveway says "naw, i'm from right here in Farmington, where are you outa'?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted October 8, 2011 Author Share Posted October 8, 2011 hey, on a good note- I did score this brand new Delco Remy alternator today for $50. Came out of the parts room and doesn't fit anything we have anymore, all the newer truck alternators are side mount. I'm gonna go put it on tomorrow.Yup, replacing that old Leece-Neville with the 22SI Delco is not a bad choice. Lot cheaper to work with sometimes. Standard "J" mount too.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Boo-hisswell, at least leversole thought it was funny. Rob probably thinks it's hilarious, just hasn't said anything...probably laughing too hard. Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted October 8, 2011 Author Share Posted October 8, 2011 I liked it too cause I was the brunt of the humor.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Yup, replacing that old Leece-Neville with the 22SI Delco is not a bad choice. Lot cheaper to work with sometimes. Standard "J" mount too.RobWent to install the alternator today. It will fit, but I either need to do some grinding on the brackets or the alternator and get a slightly longer belt, or just get another alternator like the original.The top bracket won't come down far enough to get the bolt in because of the way the alternator is made, and the bottom bracket won't let it move close enough towards the engine to get the belt on. Really don't want to grind on the alternator, could cause the ears to break off and it probably wouldn't be any more good if I needed to exchange it.Here's the situation, with lines and word bubbles. The dotted lines show what I would need to grind off. Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randyp Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Once upon a time a Swift driver was traveling through central Illinois. He saw a man in his driveway looking into the fuel tank of an R-model Mack with a flashlight.So he stops and says "hey, are you out of fuel?"The man in the driveway says "naw, i'm from right here in Farmington, where are you outa'?"heeeeeee hee hee hee hee hee heeeeeeeeeee,,,,,,,,,randyp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted October 9, 2011 Author Share Posted October 9, 2011 Don't grind on either part. They will be substantially weakened and break from engine vibration. Make an extension to bolt to both the bracket, and the alternator tensioning ear. If clearance allows, the alternator can be left to not "swing" in it's adjustment arc as close to the engine. This extension can be a small piece of 3/16's strap with rounded ends to fit with a hole in each end for the bolts to pass through. You will need to investigate a proper belt for driving it but again don't do any grinding to existing parts.Try to acquire drive belts(s) that allow proper tension while in the center of adjustment range on the top bracket such is shown in your second photo.Rob 1 Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Don't grind on either part. They will be substantially weakened and break from engine vibration. Make an extension to bolt to both the bracket, and the alternator tensioning ear. If clearance allows, the alternator can be left to not "swing" in it's adjustment arc as close to the engine. This extension can be a small piece of 3/16's strap with rounded ends to fit with a hole in each end for the bolts to pass through. You will need to investigate a proper belt for driving it but again don't do any grinding to existing parts.Try to acquire drive belts(s) that allow proper tension while in the center of adjustment range on the top bracket such is shown in your second photo.Robgreat ideer! one for the top bracket would be all I need, then just a little longer belt. If i'd done any grinding I would have ground the bracket but not the alternator, but I didn't want to grind on anything. Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted October 9, 2011 Author Share Posted October 9, 2011 great ideer! one for the top bracket would be all I need, then just a little longer belt. If i'd done any grinding I would have ground the bracket but not the alternator, but I didn't want to grind on anything.I've seen many of the top adjuster brackes busted through the years, some welded, some not. Problematic so you don't want to weaken them in any fashion.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted October 10, 2011 Author Share Posted October 10, 2011 Grabbed me a spare tank off the shelf this evening after removing the old one from the truck. I'll have to get a photo of this as the tank has nine separate repairs to it with a welder and patches besides the sump blown out. Anyways, I grab one of my spare 55 gallon tanks and have a look see inside to find a bunch of what looks like gear teeth on the bottom. This tank was converted to an oil tank on the former truck. Suppose the old gear pump come apart? I wash it out pretty good after removing the fittings in the bottom and it comes clean. I then install it onto the truck after swapping fuel fittings in the driveway and have no more problems. Maybe now the fuel will last a little longer........ This truck has very little paint on the cab so really needed to get it back into the building.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted October 15, 2011 Author Share Posted October 15, 2011 Damned thing starved out again while moving it last night. Seems I forgot to tighten the suction hose fitting at the tank after starting it by hand. One of those things I forgot to do when the telephone broke my limited train of thought. Simple fix but sure a pain in the ass. Getting these V8's to prime with no hand primer pump is difficult so I built up a regulator and apply 35 psi to the tank while the vent bleeds. It sure helps to force fuel through the system till the air is purged in the fuel gallery within the pump. Silicone lubricant spray helps to get the engine running so you don't have to grind on the starter for several minutes.If I had my gorilla I'd just have her crank it around with a bar but ole randyp is being a little selfish these days.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Rider Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 I have always used WD-40 to light off a moody diesel especially when cold out. Crews at work think I'm a walking brain trust because all I hear is "these trucks are junk, POS won't start, runs like crap", I start 'em with the WD and pull it out and let it idle for a few. These kids wanna hit the key and go, iffin it won't go they mash the throttle harder. I ask if they let it high idle for a few before taking off,,,,,"ummm no, should I?' Quote #1 on A-model registryIf I drink because of work, why can't I drink at work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted October 15, 2011 Author Share Posted October 15, 2011 I've seen educated truck drivers do the same. Just as soon as there is enough air to release the brakes, they're on the way. A good allowance of time for warmup is essential to long life for an engine and components in my opinion.Everything I own and drive has over 200,000 miles on the clock at ths writing. They didn't get that way being mistreated. Hell, the old "Trusty, yet Crusty" Dodge has been worked much harder for the bulk of it's life than design criteria allows for and it's never presented any major mechanical problems at all. Neither the engine, trans, (automatic), nor rears have ever been opened up for repairs.Let em make fun. Also let em make the payments to support their respective lifestyles needing new vehicles to exist. I'll keep my money to save more Macks, or these days "spoil" the livin shit out of my grandaughters.Rob 1 Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randyp Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 My sentiments exactly Rob,,,,,randyp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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