Chris Hogg Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 The truck in question is a 2003 CH 613, Any idea what would cause the head lights to just stop working? There is one 20 amp breaker in the fuse panel, it appears to be OK, just for grins I replaced it with a new one, no change, still no head lights. Are there any other fuses, breakers or relays on a CH 613 that pertain to the headlights? The day time running lights work as do all of the stop, turn and tail lamps. On the turn signal switch, I can slide the switch to the right that is intended to flash the head lights and they will flash but turning the head light switch on does nothing at all. It may or may not be related, but the lightning bolt is lit up on the dash, it gives 2-6 for a code. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/21580-no-headlights-on-a-2003-ch-613/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcity Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 I have a notice of recall from Mack sitting on my desk right now. It is regarding the headlite switch.One hour replacement time at a mack dealer. Call and see if your truck is involved in this recall.2001 CX 613 1 Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/21580-no-headlights-on-a-2003-ch-613/#findComment-90716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhasler Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 2-6 is the rear rear axle temperature sensor. I think Hatcity's right on the money. Quote "Mebbe I'm too ugly and stupid to give up!" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/21580-no-headlights-on-a-2003-ch-613/#findComment-90717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcity Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 2-6 is the rear rear axle temperature sensor. I think Hatcity's right on the money.WOOOO-HOOOO. I might be right about somethin'Would his truck be involved? Year/type? Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/21580-no-headlights-on-a-2003-ch-613/#findComment-90720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRebel Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Yup...I've burned through more than a couple headlight switches in my '01 CH. Then I got tired of buying 'em at $30/ea and bought a 50 amp toggle switch (WalMart, Auto Zone, truck stops, etc...just a generic switch) for $5 and wired that in. That did the job (just turned all the lights controlled by the switch on & off at the same time...no "marker lights only" position) until I could convince the local dealer to look into the issue. They had heard about issues in the CX, and the recall was just a relay that would be wired in. I haven't had any problems since they looked into it....it is nice having the OEM switch in there again, but definitely get the underlying problem FIXED before you spend a ton of money replacing the switch. Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/21580-no-headlights-on-a-2003-ch-613/#findComment-90721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Hogg Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share Posted November 13, 2011 I will check into the recall, thanks for the tip. Sure would be nice if someone else had to foot the bill for a change. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/21580-no-headlights-on-a-2003-ch-613/#findComment-90735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Hogg Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share Posted November 13, 2011 Incidentally, since I am still a puppy poster, I'm still entitled to ask silly questions. I'm saying my truck is a CH model, you guys are talking about a CX model, what is the difference? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/21580-no-headlights-on-a-2003-ch-613/#findComment-90736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdog Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 CX is the "Vision" model. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/21580-no-headlights-on-a-2003-ch-613/#findComment-90737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Hogg Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share Posted November 13, 2011 Ah, ok. I don't think mine is the Vision model. Mine is the square looking hood, flat grill with square head lights. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/21580-no-headlights-on-a-2003-ch-613/#findComment-90800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcity Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Ah, ok. I don't think mine is the Vision model. Mine is the square looking hood, flat grill with square head lights.Yup, thats what you got there-a CHCX is the sloped nose (slippery truck)You have now used up all your silly questions Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/21580-no-headlights-on-a-2003-ch-613/#findComment-90801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhasler Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 WOOOO-HOOOO. I might be right about somethin'Would his truck be involved? Year/type?I can't remember if it's involved in a campaign or not. Mack, at least to my knowledge, never campaigned any of the RD or CV chassis, though they did publish a similar fix for them. I've seen far worse than burnt out switches in some of those. Mack's explanation of the problem was that the burnt out switches were caused by current surges. In the RD and some of the earlier CV chassis the black "D" panel connector will actually melt. Quote "Mebbe I'm too ugly and stupid to give up!" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/21580-no-headlights-on-a-2003-ch-613/#findComment-90810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Hogg Posted November 15, 2011 Author Share Posted November 15, 2011 Still no lights, got power into the head light switch and power out of the head light switch and power into the dimmer switch but no power making it to the head lights. Decided to replace the dimmer switch/turn signal assembly but the nut that holds the steering wheel on is stripped out, you can turn it all day long with your fingers but you can't get it loose... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/21580-no-headlights-on-a-2003-ch-613/#findComment-90956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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