Green Dash Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Nope, I'm not struggling with the alphabet. I actually found a BCR sitting along the road a few years back and (excuse me while I pat myself on the back) knew what it was by seeing it from the front 100 yards away. Just enough time to get the truck slowed down (going uphill) and swing into the yard where it was parked.I knew it was a BCR because of the way the front axle fit in the fenders. The company my Dad was working for had built one of these and you could see the difference compared to a factory R, especially when parked next to one. The first pic is kinda close up to see the steer tires.Pictures taken with a cellphone camera.The interior, while dusty, appeared to be in new condition. No holes, nothing missing, no scratches, the seats were even in great shape. Once again however, the only person there had little info to offer and couldn't understand my interest in an old truck. Quote Jim Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Maikshilo Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Learn something new everyday. Never saw one like this. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/#findComment-103576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 This one like others I've seen uses a thinner, (probably the B series) radiator than a standard radiator also. Look at the side fillers where lights are mounted in the grille area on this one.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/#findComment-103580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 yep thats just filler panels to hide the bare spots next to the B model radiator. I know there is a sales broshure that noted the componets in the BCR kit. Dont think a larger radiator is needed tho if you kept the stock 673 or 711 in the frame. Cool find! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/#findComment-103582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
umodelnut Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 oh oh were is 57 bcr? thats a awesome truck. is it still there? 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/#findComment-103588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
57 bcr Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I'm on my way,little buddy! Always good to see other BCR's out there! Thanks for taking the pics there,Green Dash Along with the cab,hood,grille filler panels,bag of brackets,you also got a new steering gear with a short shaft on it so you could adapt the R's steering column to it.$3000.00 from your Mack parts counter and 60 man/hours of labor and you could catapult yourself right into the 70's!! (and yes it uses the stock B-61 radiator) Quote IF YOU BOUGHT IT, A TRUCK BROUGHT IT..AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT, A TRUCK WILL HAUL IT AWAY!!! Big John Trimble,WRVA Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/#findComment-103648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdog Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Has anyone ever seen a R700 BCR or literature pertaining to one?I heard once along time ago a few were built to convert B-70 series trucks but never have seen any documented proof. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/#findComment-103651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Barrett Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I'm on my way,little buddy! Always good to see other BCR's out there! Thanks for taking the pics there,Green Dash Along with the cab,hood,grille filler panels,bag of brackets,you also got a new steering gear with a short shaft on it so you could adapt the R's steering column to it.$3000.00 from your Mack parts counter and 60 man/hours of labor and you could catapult yourself right into the 70's!! (and yes it uses the stock B-61 radiator)So thats what this BCR is all about.....I never ever heard of this before. A conversion kit to bring a B-model into the R-model realm of the 70s. No kidding... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/#findComment-103656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike69mackman Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 maybe im being dumb for asking but what is a bcr? After making the statement the other month about not knowing mack put cats in there trucks i dont want to make myself look dumb again.lol Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/#findComment-103672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivetroad Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 maybe im being dumb for asking but what is a bcr? After making the statement the other month about not knowing mack put cats in there trucks i dont want to make myself look dumb again.lolThere are no dumb questions! That is what this forum is for! I had never heard of a BCR before this thread. A guy can sure learn a lot just reading on here.I don't mind when my lack of brain power raises its ugly head and shows itself to the world - that way when people meet me in the flesh, I can enjoy seeing the shocked look on their faces when they see I know how to tie my shoes. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/#findComment-103674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 "B" "C"onverted to a "R". Kinda like a glider kit with out a frame. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/#findComment-103679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Dash Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 maybe im being dumb for asking but what is a bcr? After making the statement the other month about not knowing mack put cats in there trucks i dont want to make myself look dumb again.lolB modelConverted toR modelOr just B converted to R.I thought I had a pic of the ID but this one read B61T. Does this mean the original serial number is used?I know of another one that is probably the finest example of a BCR that any of us will ever see. MR. 57BCR, care to indulge us with a photo?I'm on my way,little buddy! Always good to see other BCR's out there! Thanks for taking the pics there,Green Dash Along with the cab,hood,grille filler panels,bag of brackets,you also got a new steering gear with a short shaft on it so you could adapt the R's steering column to it.$3000.00 from your Mack parts counter and 60 man/hours of labor and you could catapult yourself right into the 70's!! (and yes it uses the stock B-61 radiator)Thanks for the details. Any idea on how many kits were sold? Quote Jim Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/#findComment-103680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Dash Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 "B" "C"onverted to a "R". Kinda like a glider kit with out a frame.Dammit. Quote Jim Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/#findComment-103681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Dammit.Only by a minute! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/#findComment-103682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Dash Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 It turns out I took these pics 5 years ago. I forgot I posted them on Hank's along with links to pics of another BCR. There is also a link to a pic on this site of THE 57 BCR, but it no longer works.Over there, my user name is Boll Weevil in honor of my Dad. That was his cb handle for 40+ years.http://hankstruckforum.com/htforum/index.php?topic=6720.msg51130#msg51130 Quote Jim Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/#findComment-103683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Dash Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 Only by a minute!Yeah but i started typing 15 minutes before you. Quote Jim Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/#findComment-103684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Dash Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 oh oh were is 57 bcr? thats a awesome truck. is it still there?i can't say for sure. I found the location on Google Maps and it shows the truck on the property, but in a different location.Does anyone know how to post an image from Google Maps? Quote Jim Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/#findComment-103689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
57 bcr Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Guys, I have posted a few pictures in my gallery "57 bcr's Trucks".Here's another! Superdog as soon as I can dig up the pictures,I will publish one of a B-73 that was converted,using the R-700 hood(very,very rare).The Mack Museum estimates somewhere between 4-5,000 of the BCR kits were sold.My next version of a B-61 will be built using the Clariben fiberglass hood.Not the prettiest version of the B.But yet another example of what you could do with a B.(if you wanted to)! 1 Quote IF YOU BOUGHT IT, A TRUCK BROUGHT IT..AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT, A TRUCK WILL HAUL IT AWAY!!! Big John Trimble,WRVA Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/#findComment-103734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
57 bcr Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Has anyone ever seen a R700 BCR or literature pertaining to one?I heard once along time ago a few were built to convert B-70 series trucks but never have seen any documented proof.Heres the picture and caption(zoom in on "D"),Superdog.Its from an old Canadian Mack Bulldog magazine from like '74! Wonder what that guy did with that cab? Frank Szabo from out east,knew of a converted B-70 series wrecker in N.Y. that was pretty rough,but all the important pieces were there.I don't know what ever happened There.that was several years ago.Enjoy! 1 Quote IF YOU BOUGHT IT, A TRUCK BROUGHT IT..AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT, A TRUCK WILL HAUL IT AWAY!!! Big John Trimble,WRVA Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/#findComment-103742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Pretty interesting on the 700 truck conversion. The old style cab, (steel dash) yet using the later style grab bars. The fuel tanks are B series, exhaust hanger on the frame is B series, and the grille opening uses a partial closure panel to conceal the hinges. Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/#findComment-103744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdog Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Thanks,Al,guess my memory ain't as bad as I thought. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/#findComment-103748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
57 bcr Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Yep,you needed something to fill that gap between the tiny radiator/shutter assy. of the B-61,and the now HUGE opening of the R series hood! The last time I was at the museum(it was still by the Lehigh Valley Airport,Allentown),Dale Guth told me they had just found the assembly intructions(in the form of Mack Service Bulletins) and he copied them and mailed them to me! What a bunch of information!! "Cut off this bracket & reweld here" was used a few times! The next year at Macungie a guy was selling the very same packet of information.Don't know if he got it from MACK or they got it from him? Not going to make any judgement about that.Just glad I have a copy,thanks to Dale Guth. Quote IF YOU BOUGHT IT, A TRUCK BROUGHT IT..AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT, A TRUCK WILL HAUL IT AWAY!!! Big John Trimble,WRVA Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/#findComment-103749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
57 bcr Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Thanks,Al,guess my memory ain't as bad as I thought. SEE? Quote IF YOU BOUGHT IT, A TRUCK BROUGHT IT..AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT, A TRUCK WILL HAUL IT AWAY!!! Big John Trimble,WRVA Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/#findComment-103754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Thanks,Al,guess my memory ain't as bad as I thought.Besides my nuts, that's the part I miss the most.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/#findComment-103757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
umodelnut Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Wow that's pretty cool!!! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/#findComment-103769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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