57 bcr Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Thanks for starting this thread,Green Dash.I knew I fixed that 'ol dog up for something! I wonder just how many BCR's are still out there? Hmmmmmmmm? Maybe a B C R registry? When I sent my info into Tom Gannaway,he had never heard of one.I should check back with The Fuzzy Buzzard and see if anyone else has claimed ownership or whereabouts! Quote IF YOU BOUGHT IT, A TRUCK BROUGHT IT..AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT, A TRUCK WILL HAUL IT AWAY!!! Big John Trimble,WRVA Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/page/2/#findComment-103792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdog Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 there was a BCR single axle cab & chassis on a used truck lot in Galva,IL a couple years ago,don't know if it's still there or not.I also have hard pics somewhere of a BCR in Wisc. that Mike Pagel took some years back.There was also a BCR wrecker on Ebay a few years ago.There was another in Chicago in the lot where my Celli B613 was,but it got scrapped,Trent could fill more in on that one. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/page/2/#findComment-103795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I have photos of the one that was in Galva. I'll have to look on an old computer.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/page/2/#findComment-103796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
57 bcr Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 there was a BCR single axle cab & chassis on a used truck lot in Galva,IL a couple years ago,don't know if it's still there or not.I also have hard pics somewhere of a BCR in Wisc. that Mike Pagel took some years back.There was also a BCR wrecker on Ebay a few years ago.There was another in Chicago in the lot where my Celli B613 was,but it got scrapped,Trent could fill more in on that one. I hear ya,Mike. A local sand & gravel hauler had one for years just sitting here.Then a guy came by picking up all the R models he could find for some foreign country,and it was gone.Littlle did he know it was not really an R! I was just at Galva in Jan. Didn't see that one this time.Was one of Harry Kuhns.Celli had some,themselves.Marv Comer had a bunch in his boneyard.Joe Keeley had one in his yard at one time.Fred Chase & Craig Gaudry gave me a dash plaque, last time I was at Macungie of one.There out there.Don't need another one,pictures take up a lot less room! Quote IF YOU BOUGHT IT, A TRUCK BROUGHT IT..AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT, A TRUCK WILL HAUL IT AWAY!!! Big John Trimble,WRVA Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/page/2/#findComment-103797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbrem Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Here is one from my area that has been at a few shows. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/page/2/#findComment-103801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
57 bcr Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Here is one from my area that has been at a few shows.Thanks for the pics.Thats the same one Fred & Craig gave me the dash plaque of.Must be built on a B-61X or maybe B-81X chassis or something.Looks heavy-duty! Sure is sharp! WOW! Quote IF YOU BOUGHT IT, A TRUCK BROUGHT IT..AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT, A TRUCK WILL HAUL IT AWAY!!! Big John Trimble,WRVA Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/page/2/#findComment-103803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
umodelnut Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 ya it looks like thwe truck sits up higher, nice truck though!!!! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/page/2/#findComment-103808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbrem Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Must be built on a B-61X or maybe B-81X chassis or something.Looks heavy-duty!I don't know for sure, but I was thinking the same thing. It is rugged, thats for sure. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/page/2/#findComment-103815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Dash Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 Thanks for starting this thread,Green Dash.I knew I fixed that 'ol dog up for something! I wonder just how many BCR's are still out there? Hmmmmmmmm? Maybe a B C R registry? When I sent my info into Tom Gannaway,he had never heard of one.I should check back with The Fuzzy Buzzard and see if anyone else has claimed ownership or whereabouts! The pleasure is all mine! Your truck is one of the finest examples of an R model i've ever seen, let alone a BCR!Love the brochures, I didn't know about the 700 version.I was too busy bragging about noticing the steer axle to see the fillers for the radiator. Didn't early R models have something similar? 1 Quote Jim Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/page/2/#findComment-103817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 The pleasure is all mine! Your truck is one of the finest examples of an R model i've ever seen, let alone a BCR!Love the brochures, I didn't know about the 700 version.I was too busy bragging about noticing the steer axle to see the fillers for the radiator. Didn't early R models have something similar?Most early Mack diesel powered R models used a 34" wide radiator.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/page/2/#findComment-103818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
57 bcr Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 The pleasure is all mine! Your truck is one of the finest examples of an R model i've ever seen, let alone a BCR!Love the brochures, I didn't know about the 700 version.I was too busy bragging about noticing the steer axle to see the fillers for the radiator. Didn't early R models have something similar?Thank you. You are too kind,Jim Glad you liked the brochures.I have a small collection of original BCR brochures & ads.The early R's had like "dummy" shutter panels.I think on the R-607's and 609's maybe.For the smaller HP engines that didn't require the bigger radiator. Al Quote IF YOU BOUGHT IT, A TRUCK BROUGHT IT..AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT, A TRUCK WILL HAUL IT AWAY!!! Big John Trimble,WRVA Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/page/2/#findComment-103887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Thank you. You are too kind,Jim Glad you liked the brochures.I have a small collection of original BCR brochures & ads.The early R's had like "dummy" shutter panels.I think on the R-607's and 609's maybe.For the smaller HP engines that didn't require the bigger radiator. Al"Hmmmm", Dummy, and R model in the same sentence. My concern is growing you are picking on me but I'm too dense to figger it out.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/page/2/#findComment-103891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
57 bcr Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Wait 'till you get here to pick that sleeper up!!! Quote IF YOU BOUGHT IT, A TRUCK BROUGHT IT..AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT, A TRUCK WILL HAUL IT AWAY!!! Big John Trimble,WRVA Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/page/2/#findComment-103895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog13407 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 was a BCR outside Boonville Ny by the Chevy dealer for years. was a tandem axle dump truck the guy was sellin parts off of. i knew it was a BCR because it had the old 673 with the single belt pulley on the engine and the front axle was narrower. the early R models still used a 505 and 517 front axle but were about 2'' wider than a B model i believe. truck might even still sit there. he also had a few B models that were on craigslist for outrageously high prices in the past year. Matt Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/page/2/#findComment-103901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phase 1 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 .My next version of a B-61 will be built using the Clariben fiberglass hood.Not the prettiest version of the B.But yet another example of what you could do with a B.(if you wanted to)![attachment=15596:DSC_2782.jpg]That will be a good thing to do. Most folks probably would not want a Clariben hood, but it will show people a piece of history. It might be the only one restored, I don't think I have seen another. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/page/2/#findComment-103908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
57 bcr Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 That will be a good thing to do. Most folks probably would not want a Clariben hood, but it will show people a piece of history. It might be the only one restored, I don't think I have seen another.Thats what I was thinking PZ.I remembered when Celli Tucking started retrofitting their B's in the early '70's with those ugly,squared-off hoods.I remembered how much we hated them,too! But, they made the B not so tough to do normal maintainence,gave them an even lighter empty weight,and were easier for the fleet to repair after a wreck,and the front ends didn't rust anymore! I guess for the fleet,it was a way to cut costs and stay competitve.They did,and some of those B's ran well into the '80's! Here is a picture of the only B they still have left.This was right after the conversion,in probably '70-'71.It doesn't look this nice today,for sure! But not out of the question for project! Quote IF YOU BOUGHT IT, A TRUCK BROUGHT IT..AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT, A TRUCK WILL HAUL IT AWAY!!! Big John Trimble,WRVA Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/page/2/#findComment-103930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
57 bcr Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 was a BCR outside Boonville Ny by the Chevy dealer for years. was a tandem axle dump truck the guy was sellin parts off of. i knew it was a BCR because it had the old 673 with the single belt pulley on the engine and the front axle was narrower. the early R models still used a 505 and 517 front axle but were about 2'' wider than a B model i believe. truck might even still sit there. he also had a few B models that were on craigslist for outrageously high prices in the past year. Matt I've saved Mack ads from TNT magazine for years and had actually seen a couple that were dump trucks.Maybe I have that particular picture,somewhere! Quote IF YOU BOUGHT IT, A TRUCK BROUGHT IT..AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT, A TRUCK WILL HAUL IT AWAY!!! Big John Trimble,WRVA Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/page/2/#findComment-103932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
umodelnut Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Wow someone should save that celi b model Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/page/2/#findComment-103967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 The Lot with the Celli Trucks had all sorts of stuff that was being cut up. I think the scrap man bought them all from Celli and was cutting them up where Celli had parked them years before. My B model had a 8" Tree growing up throught the frame rail so who knows how long they were parked there? There was 1 A model, 2 B models, and 1 or 2 BCRs. I was able to have the scrappers hold off cutting up everthing but the BCRs (no one wanted them at the tine) I cant recall how I found them in the field but I think a friend had tiped me off and put me in touch with the scrapper? I do recall that the BCRs were rotted out pretty bad. worse than the B models. Celli also had lots of odd stuff at their yard including those ugly Clarbian (SP?) B model tilt hoods. and a new bare F model day cab. Celli..i.e C.T.C has sence changed names to Concrete Transport Company?? sadly the Northwest Mack / CTC building was leveled a few years ago. trent Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/page/2/#findComment-104005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Dash Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 Guys, I have posted a few pictures in my gallery "57 bcr's Trucks".Here's another! Superdog as soon as I can dig up the pictures,I will publish one of a B-73 that was converted,using the R-700 hood(very,very rare).The Mack Museum estimates somewhere between 4-5,000 of the BCR kits were sold.My next version of a B-61 will be built using the Clariben fiberglass hood.Not the prettiest version of the B.But yet another example of what you could do with a B.(if you wanted to)!Allow me to continue kissing up. I agree the Clariben hoods take away from the appearance although I'm sure I'd see the beauty in them if I had to work on a B model engine. The idea that you would build one for the sake of preserving history is quite commendable.Okay one more...Is that a white steering wheel in your BCR? If so, Quote Jim Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/page/2/#findComment-104010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiant2 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 a friend of mine has a b-53 and the twin to that truck was a BCR.. truck is still around and in great shape. on a side note, there was a b model in the area 10 yrs ago with a clariben tilt hood, think it went to caseys salvage yard in buffalo, not there now and must have sold it.gg2 Quote We the unwilling, Lead by the unqualified, are doing the impossible, for the ungrateful. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/page/2/#findComment-104012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
57 bcr Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Allow me to continue kissing up. I agree the Clariben hoods take away from the appearance although I'm sure I'd see the beauty in them if I had to work on a B model engine. The idea that you would build one for the sake of preserving history is quite commendable.Okay one more...Is that a white steering wheel in your BCR? If so, Not kissing up,Jim! Were just talking B model history here! Yeah, I thought about it,and my plans for the '58 B-61LT( I bought in 1992) are to take a Clariben hood that I have, and put on that truck.For the simple reason of ,yes,it is a different version of the B.And I dont have to hunt around for priceless, good,sheetmetal!! No, seriously, why not since I have the hood,and the truck to put it on! I am sacrificing great looks,but I never was one to follow the crowd! And yes, that is a white steering wheel on the BCR.I put it on there just because I like the white steering wheel better than the green ones.The west coast Macks of the day always had the white wheels,so I thought I'd go that route on mine! Just a custom item I like to include. Quote IF YOU BOUGHT IT, A TRUCK BROUGHT IT..AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT, A TRUCK WILL HAUL IT AWAY!!! Big John Trimble,WRVA Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/page/2/#findComment-104066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
57 bcr Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 The Lot with the Celli Trucks had all sorts of stuff that was being cut up. I think the scrap man bought them all from Celli and was cutting them up where Celli had parked them years before. My B model had a 8" Tree growing up throught the frame rail so who knows how long they were parked there? There was 1 A model, 2 B models, and 1 or 2 BCRs. I was able to have the scrappers hold off cutting up everthing but the BCRs (no one wanted them at the tine) I cant recall how I found them in the field but I think a friend had tiped me off and put me in touch with the scrapper? I do recall that the BCRs were rotted out pretty bad. worse than the B models. Celli also had lots of odd stuff at their yard including those ugly Clarbian (SP?) B model tilt hoods. and a new bare F model day cab. Celli..i.e C.T.C has sence changed names to Concrete Transport Company?? sadly the Northwest Mack / CTC building was leveled a few years ago.trentYes,Trent ,Gene did sell out to Mark Kennedy(Markaty) and become Cement Transport Co.However,Celli Truck Center(formally Northwest Mack) has relocated to Melrose Park (the old Pollard IH building).Still doing parts & service ,leasing and selling used trucks.Gene is 90 years old and still shows up there everyday! Quote IF YOU BOUGHT IT, A TRUCK BROUGHT IT..AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT, A TRUCK WILL HAUL IT AWAY!!! Big John Trimble,WRVA Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/page/2/#findComment-104067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 thats good to hear Al...I dident know they relocated. Are they still a mack dealer?Also There is still a Celli B model Water truck sitting it Orient Express yard off Rt12. Think it was moved there when the old yard was leveled?Trent Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/page/2/#findComment-104109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
57 bcr Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 thats good to hear Al...I dident know they relocated. Are they still a mack dealer?Also There is still a Celli B model Water truck sitting it Orient Express yard off Rt12. Think it was moved there when the old yard was leveled?Trent Yes,Trent,parts,service,leasing and used truck sales( & Mitsubishi-Fuso sales).I don't think they were ever a true full service MACK dealer.Except for the Mid-Liner series.Eugene wanted to become a full service dealer after the O'Hare factory branch closed.But territory rights came into effect,and I believe N.I. Mack was assigned that area.Yeah,I heard about that old B at Orient Express' yard.I think your right about it moved there after the Schiller Park yard was wrongfully leveled! My great uncle built both the S.P. and Wauconda buildings.He is long gone,but Gene still remembered him well.Kind of nice,you know? Quote IF YOU BOUGHT IT, A TRUCK BROUGHT IT..AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT, A TRUCK WILL HAUL IT AWAY!!! Big John Trimble,WRVA Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/23437-a-b-c-r/page/2/#findComment-104130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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