41chevy Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 The local truck dealer has 4 CH Macks for sale. All are 1999 and are 350 with 10 speed and 44 rear day cabs. All have 150000 to 300000 miles. How reliable were they. I heard that they are underpowered with the 350. I'm thinking of on as a replacement for my wrecked R car carrier with its 25 foot body. Paul Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24772-ch-613-series/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRebel Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 I've got an '01 CH...would prefer the interior the 99's have (cup holder on the dash...away from Dozer). 150K to 300K miles is pretty low. Bought mine in '08 with 260K on the odometer...4 years later, it's over 660K. The 350 might be underpowered if you're going to run 80,000 pounds all of the time, but if you're going to be lighter it might not be so bad. The good news is that you can upgrade....cam, timing, etc...to get more out of it if you want to....but all that costs money. Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24772-ch-613-series/#findComment-116337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 my biggest complaint is the electronic 350s just felt slow. they ride nice and can get in and out of tight spots but they just felt like they had no power when compaired to a mechanical. They lasted forever some over a million miles. I dont recall any problems like the mid 200X CH macks had. to me they are mostly fleet spec trucks but they did the job well and all day long. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24772-ch-613-series/#findComment-116339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted April 27, 2012 Author Share Posted April 27, 2012 I've got an '01 CH...would prefer the interior the 99's have (cup holder on the dash...away from Dozer). 150K to 300K miles is pretty low. Bought mine in '08 with 260K on the odometer...4 years later, it's over 660K. The 350 might be underpowered if you're going to run 80,000 pounds all of the time, but if you're going to be lighter it might not be so bad. The good news is that you can upgrade....cam, timing, etc...to get more out of it if you want to....but all that costs money.The mileage seems low to me also, checked the # and they were all used by a L.I. company called BlueLinx delivering building supplies to local lumber yards. I'm curious about the chassis specs. If they check out and go with a good price, I'll put my Weldbilt equipment carrier body on it. No real heavy loads carried. We'll see on Monday when they reopen. Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24772-ch-613-series/#findComment-116362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
demolitionman25 Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 I own a 95 that is electronic and it has a 350 with a 10 speed it was a road tractor that i turned into a triaxle dump truck and im light weighted at 24000 and when im loaded im grossing 72000 i can pull the local mountains in 8th gear and it runs great overall top end as far as speed its not the fastest but it will get on its knees and pull the load Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24772-ch-613-series/#findComment-116372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveigou Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 1999's are E-tech engines, it would be nice to know if they had camshafts and other up-dates, if they did, they should be good. The dealer should be able to confirm the miles on the engine ECM, and also tell you fuel mileage. For what you're doing you should be happy with a 350. With the 44k rears, I believe a double frame or at least a single 8MM (5/16") was mandatory, which is a plus if you're going to stretch it. Quote See my Flickr photostream page http://www.flickr.com/photos/96692978@N05/ Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24772-ch-613-series/#findComment-116377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Maikshilo Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Drove a new 1993 CH with a 400 and a 13 speed and it was a great truck and pulled well. In this economy I would go with the 350 and not worry about getting some where 5 minutes sooner. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24772-ch-613-series/#findComment-116384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted April 28, 2012 Author Share Posted April 28, 2012 1999's are E-tech engines, it would be nice to know if they had camshafts and other up-dates, if they did, they should be good. The dealer should be able to confirm the miles on the engine ECM, and also tell you fuel mileage. For what you're doing you should be happy with a 350. With the 44k rears, I believe a double frame or at least a single 8MM (5/16") was mandatory, which is a plus if you're going to stretch it.Being my first unit with an ECM I didn't know the mileage could be pulled up. I'll ask the dealer to pull that up on monday One has a single rail chassis 3 have double rails. Like I said the electronic controls are an entirely new world for me on trucks. thanks Paul Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24772-ch-613-series/#findComment-116521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Drove a new 1993 CH with a 400 and a 13 speed and it was a great truck and pulled well. In this economy I would go with the 350 and not worry about getting some where 5 minutes sooner.That right there is some good logic. Just imagine the many hundreds, thousands, millions, billions, trillions, infinite numbers of freight tonnage hauled throughout the world with less than 200 horsepower.In many ways those really were "simpler times".Rob 2 Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24772-ch-613-series/#findComment-116525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackpro Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Early ETECH's did have camshaft issuses, intake manifold gaskets blowing out (around #1 cylinder) and Jake Brake (floating pin) issuses. All these problems can be fixed with available updated parts. A great engine! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24772-ch-613-series/#findComment-116530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41180 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 love that ch tim maikshilo Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24772-ch-613-series/#findComment-117356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Paul, I think Bluelinx used to be the trucking division of Georgia-Pacific. They always took good care of their trucks. Before the CH's they had all R models. Usually with aluminum wheels and headache racks. Like the oil companies, they may have ordered the trucks without things like the PTO drive gear in the trans just to save a few pounds. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24772-ch-613-series/#findComment-117405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Dash Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Paul, I think Bluelinx used to be the trucking division of Georgia-Pacific. They always took good care of their trucks. Before the CH's they had all R models. Usually with aluminum wheels and headache racks. Like the oil companies, they may have ordered the trucks without things like the PTO drive gear in the trans just to save a few pounds.I didn't realize how long they'd been around until i read this. I first heard of them about 10 years ago when they started branding the equipment with the Blue Linx name. I used to deliver to many of the same business as them and the trucks always looked good, the driver's took pride in them too.Around here it's all local, multistop deliveries, becoming lighter throughout the day and usually returning very light or empty.love that ch tim maikshiloSharpest CH I've ever seen. Mack Green with black spokes and some bling. Perfect. Quote Jim Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24772-ch-613-series/#findComment-117447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Maikshilo Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Thanks guys, Here is another angle. This truck went like hell and loved having the thirteen speed. Pulled 6 jersey barriers back to the yard one day and had a stage coach thinking he was gonna pass me all the way from New Haven to Hartford....didn't happen and as I got off the exit ramp as he went by he got on the horn and said, Lowboy....you can really move the mail! That made my day for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24772-ch-613-series/#findComment-117877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 Blue Linx is running Freightliners here, I talked to the mechanic and bribed him to pull the logs on the ch's. maint logs, mileages are close, they were replaced for age not mileage. Didn't realize the idler for the PTO was optional..have to check on that. Paul Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24772-ch-613-series/#findComment-117887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Maikshilo Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Sounds good Paul, do you have any photo's of the truck your looking at? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24772-ch-613-series/#findComment-117951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GearheadGrrrl Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 350 Mack horses are plenty. I've driven 355/380 Maxicruise E7s that would pull 3% grades in top gear, quite a change from when I used to crawl up them at 30 MPH with Cummins or Detroit power. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24772-ch-613-series/#findComment-118058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivetroad Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 as I got off the exit ramp as he went by he got on the horn and said, Lowboy....you can really move the mail! That made my day for sureHa! That is one of those things you should tell your kids someday when you go by there. My grandfather never had a nice truck, but when we would be hauling hogs in his 1950's IHC and get up to 50mph on a downhill run, he would get a big grin, lean over and yell over the sound of the engine; "now we are really hauling the mail"! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24772-ch-613-series/#findComment-118063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Maikshilo Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Ha! That is one of those things you should tell your kids someday when you go by there.My grandfather never had a nice truck, but when we would be hauling hogs in his 1950's IHC and get up to 50mph on a downhill run, he would get a big grin, lean over and yell over the sound of the engine; "now we are really hauling the mail"!I bet the he was gripping the wheel with both hands as he said that too! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24772-ch-613-series/#findComment-118334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted May 8, 2012 Author Share Posted May 8, 2012 Sounds good Paul, do you have any photo's of the truck your looking at?I'll take some, I keep forgeting I bought a real camera instead of a phone.As for horsepower..I just need to do the job get there and get home speed is secondary. Paul Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24772-ch-613-series/#findComment-118356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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