tkobes43 Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Would you haul a B61t on this gooseneck? Im worried that it will be to top heavy.Trailer is a 40' gooseneck with air ride suspension. With tandem axles. Pics-Tom Quote "Nothing Breaks Wind Like A Bulldog" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24825-mack-b-model-on-a-gooseneck/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
umodelnut Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Well, I would. Dont take my word for it though seriously. I think your B61 would look good on there. Its a little bit smaller than my U, so I would. I think my U would be top heavy on that. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24825-mack-b-model-on-a-gooseneck/#findComment-116868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 With the exception of a couple, I've hauled all my trucks home on a trailer much like that one. I wouldn't make attempt to haul a "U" model home up and off center like that. The so called "kick stand" needed would make the load too wide and would invite Mr. DOT to come visit.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24825-mack-b-model-on-a-gooseneck/#findComment-116874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
umodelnut Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 With the exception of a couple, I've hauled all my trucks home on a trailer much like that one. I wouldn't make attempt to haul a "U" model home up and off center like that. The so called "kick stand" needed would make the load too wide and would invite Mr. DOT to come visit.Robmmmmm,,hmmmmmm. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24825-mack-b-model-on-a-gooseneck/#findComment-116875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkobes43 Posted April 30, 2012 Author Share Posted April 30, 2012 With the exception of a couple, I've hauled all my trucks home on a trailer much like that one. I wouldn't make attempt to haul a "U" model home up and off center like that. The so called "kick stand" needed would make the load too wide and would invite Mr. DOT to come visit.RobWell, I would. Dont take my word for it though seriously. I think your B61 would look good on there. Its a little bit smaller than my U, so I would. I think my U would be top heavy on that.Rob- Sounds good rob. There is a truck show coming up to my area in a next month or so. Im gonna load up the B Model on the gooseneck and take it to the show with the international. Ill make sure i grab a few pics for ya. Vinny- Thanks for your help. Im just concerned about the weight, If I'm not mistaken the "B" weighs more then the "U"... Correct?Tom Quote "Nothing Breaks Wind Like A Bulldog" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24825-mack-b-model-on-a-gooseneck/#findComment-116877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
umodelnut Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Rob- Sounds good rob. There is a truck show coming up to my area in a next month or so. Im gonna load up the B Model on the gooseneck and take it to the show with the international. Ill make sure i grab a few pics for ya.Vinny- Thanks for your help. Im just concerned about the weight, If I'm not mistaken the "B" weighs more then the "U"... Correct?TomI dont think it weighs more than a U? Make sure you get pictures. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24825-mack-b-model-on-a-gooseneck/#findComment-116882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnin oil Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 I can tell you that I hauled my L model on a similiar trailer but has a fifth hitch. i am looking to convert it to a gooseneck when I get the time. Stability was fine. Wieght was heavy! Every law man I passed looked twice but noone stopped me. After talking to both VA and TX to be legal for a private citazen it requires a CDL, med card, and proper registration. No other BS other than stopping at scales. No IFTA or log books. What are you going to tow it with? I bet the first thing they check is axle wieght on the tow vehicle. That was the common thread with every DOT officer I talked to about my load. Somewhere on here I have picks of it crossing the Cat scale behind my 5500. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24825-mack-b-model-on-a-gooseneck/#findComment-116890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Rob- Sounds good rob. There is a truck show coming up to my area in a next month or so. Im gonna load up the B Model on the gooseneck and take it to the show with the international. Ill make sure i grab a few pics for ya.Vinny- Thanks for your help. Im just concerned about the weight, If I'm not mistaken the "B" weighs more then the "U"... Correct?TomIn the "Trusty, yet Crusty" ole Dodge, I set the load on the trailer to drop the truck about four inches or so. This allowed the truck to maintain good handling characteristics and not burn the tires off from being too heavy. Basically, split the weight of the load on the truck and trailer. About 60/40 is great balance with the heavier on the pulling unit, (truck).With no dovetail on the rear of the trailer use good long ramps to avoid dragging the bottor of the truck when loading.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24825-mack-b-model-on-a-gooseneck/#findComment-116897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucerne tractor Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 No problem at all, just watch your height, pipes would be the only thing you might have to remove. Fold the mirrors in so you don't get nailed for oversize. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24825-mack-b-model-on-a-gooseneck/#findComment-116898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 If turbocharged, duct tape the exhaust stack shut to not allow the turbin to spin unlubricated while traveling.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24825-mack-b-model-on-a-gooseneck/#findComment-116901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucerne tractor Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Would you haul a B61t on this gooseneck? Im worried that it will be to top heavy.Trailer is a 40' gooseneck with air ride suspension. With tandem axles. Pics-TomI see your in NJ or the New England area, measure the load height, stay under 13'6" and remember the true height, there are briges everywhere up here lower then that. They will be posted, just keep an eye open. Top heavy, no problem, just drive reasonable. Best to chain four corners pulling four directions, best to hook to the axles that way there is no bounce slack in the chain. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24825-mack-b-model-on-a-gooseneck/#findComment-116903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkobes43 Posted April 30, 2012 Author Share Posted April 30, 2012 Thanks for all your help guys...! I will be towing it with a 07 international 4400. i will not be over weight by any means. Im only going about 20 minutes to the truck show. If any of you guys are in the area stop on by. Its at the sussex county fair grounds! not to sure on the dates tho. Lucerne- I am in Northern NJ!!Thanks again,Tom Quote "Nothing Breaks Wind Like A Bulldog" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24825-mack-b-model-on-a-gooseneck/#findComment-116911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b61fred Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 I have hauled semis all over the country and have been stoped by a few state police with a 32 foot dual tandem trailer and a single rear wheel ford f350 superduty. The cops were more worried about if I was hauling commercially or for my self, when I explained that it was a retired truck they were just fine and were very pleasant. I have never had a problem as far as loading, unloading and hauling. I did loose a wheel bearing in Pennsy. one time but I dont believe that was the trailers fault (chinese bearing). Is your dove tail in the up position on that trailer or does it not have one? I have had v8 superliners on my truck and trailer so a b should be a cake walk. Morgan 1 Quote 15 gears...no waiting! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24825-mack-b-model-on-a-gooseneck/#findComment-116952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Single axle B model? Maybe 11-12K lbs. No problem.Doesn't look like the trailer is a dovetail? Watch the ramp lengths, as you'll catch a fuel tank if they are too steep. Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24825-mack-b-model-on-a-gooseneck/#findComment-116958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxfymn Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 What everyone else said plus make sure you use a "four point" tie down to meet DOT standards. One problem I have with my trailer is the weight of the truck sometimes keeps the ramps from lowering all the way down. I now carry a couple of sloped boards that I back the trailer onto in order to raise the rear end enough to get the ramps to drop all the way down.I also installed jacks on the rear to keep the ramps from kicking up as I load and unload. Quote Money, sex, and fire; everybody thinks everyone else is getting more than they are! Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24825-mack-b-model-on-a-gooseneck/#findComment-116960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnin oil Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 fxfym, what does that fire truck wiegh? I would think that you are pushing them trailer tires pretty bad. My single axle L model is 14,800lbs and maxs out my dual tandem. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24825-mack-b-model-on-a-gooseneck/#findComment-117249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 fxfym, what does that fire truck wiegh? I would think that you are pushing them trailer tires pretty bad. My single axle L model is 14,800lbs and maxs out my dual tandem.Those look like 17.5" lowboy tires. They are usually about 14 ply rating.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24825-mack-b-model-on-a-gooseneck/#findComment-117251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
umodelnut Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Would you haul a B61t on this gooseneck? Im worried that it will be to top heavy.Trailer is a 40' gooseneck with air ride suspension. With tandem axles.Pics-TomI need a trailer like that to haul more U models home. I need it to haul other old Macks home too. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24825-mack-b-model-on-a-gooseneck/#findComment-117253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkobes43 Posted May 2, 2012 Author Share Posted May 2, 2012 Thanks everyone for your help,B61fred- Thats ford tough for ya!! Love to see pics if you have any of the ford all loaded up! Thanks for your help.freighttrain- Trailer is not dovetail , the one with dovetails where WAY out of my $$$$$ range. FXY- yes sir! I got my chain and binders a few days ago! Im all set with that. Thats a great looking trailer, and mack!!! Nice ride! Tom Quote "Nothing Breaks Wind Like A Bulldog" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24825-mack-b-model-on-a-gooseneck/#findComment-117254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkobes43 Posted May 2, 2012 Author Share Posted May 2, 2012 I need a trailer like that to haul more U models home. I need it to haul other old Macks home too.Trust me! I love it! I already out fit it with a bunch of LEDS!!! Ill grab a pic tomorrow when i install my king pin hitch. Tom Quote "Nothing Breaks Wind Like A Bulldog" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24825-mack-b-model-on-a-gooseneck/#findComment-117255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
umodelnut Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Trust me! I love it! I already out fit it with a bunch of LEDS!!! Ill grab a pic tomorrow when i install my king pin hitch.TomId love it too Tom. LOL, Cool, excited to see the pictures. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24825-mack-b-model-on-a-gooseneck/#findComment-117257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkobes43 Posted May 2, 2012 Author Share Posted May 2, 2012 i guess theres a box shortage....Tom Quote "Nothing Breaks Wind Like A Bulldog" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24825-mack-b-model-on-a-gooseneck/#findComment-117274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougsr Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 We hauled a B42 dump from NY to LA on a trailer like that. It was a dove tail though. No problem at all.Doug Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24825-mack-b-model-on-a-gooseneck/#findComment-117277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivetroad Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 i guess theres a box shortage....TomIn Missouri, if you run with a kingpin in any trailer, you can license it with permanent plates, which is a big savings in time, trouble, and expense - you can only get plates you have to renew on one with a gooseneck ball. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24825-mack-b-model-on-a-gooseneck/#findComment-117302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 In Missouri, if you run with a kingpin in any trailer, you can license it with permanent plates, which is a big savings in time, trouble, and expense - you can only get plates you have to renew on one with a gooseneck ball.This is true but the truck or pulling unit needs to be licensed heavy to include trailer and cargo weight as you are now running a combination vehicle and the trailer is a semi trailer. I've seen this tried with an 8000# pick up truck license plate, and a permanent mount plate on the trailer, and it's expensive when you get caught hauling most anything.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24825-mack-b-model-on-a-gooseneck/#findComment-117306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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