wolfdaddy Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 (edited) my buddy tried the ones from rochester got minimal power gain much more smoke on take off and at up shift points trying to see what his money got him not very satisfied as of yet . any advice ? Edited May 5, 2012 by wolfdaddy Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24944-laser-cut-injectors-e-tech-460-stage-2-all-talk-no-go/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
41180 Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 we bought some from sascatchewan canada made our 460 into a 550 cat killer . the place was called northwest diesel Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24944-laser-cut-injectors-e-tech-460-stage-2-all-talk-no-go/#findComment-117735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfdaddy Posted May 5, 2012 Author Share Posted May 5, 2012 all u did was injectors ? rochester say's do turbo as well . injectors not enough ? supposed to be 20% increase in power . may have gained 5 or 10% he is very let down expected 100 more bdp . Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24944-laser-cut-injectors-e-tech-460-stage-2-all-talk-no-go/#findComment-117756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamkar Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Gday Logtruckman, have you any idea if those injectors would do sum good in a 470 CCRS motor, or if there's other ways to get them going. Seems they cant make any-more boost, mines good for 32psi, if it goes to 33 the prick of a thing derates. Any advice - much appreciated. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24944-laser-cut-injectors-e-tech-460-stage-2-all-talk-no-go/#findComment-117773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41180 Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 i dont know jamkar. wish i did. all i know is this 460 has tons of power and all we did is put those injectors in. it has atleast 525 hp now or maybe 550 . my brother has ran with a guy with a 600 cat and has no problem keeping up. we didnt do the turbo just injectors . im sure the turbo would make it a bear lol Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24944-laser-cut-injectors-e-tech-460-stage-2-all-talk-no-go/#findComment-117810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfdaddy Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 good to know ya truck nut . his truck is cx vision e-tech 460injectors just made it smoke and high egt's has to lift on hills they are not doing what they sed they would . any thoughts ? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24944-laser-cut-injectors-e-tech-460-stage-2-all-talk-no-go/#findComment-117917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41180 Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 maybe the ones from canada are better that all i can say Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24944-laser-cut-injectors-e-tech-460-stage-2-all-talk-no-go/#findComment-117968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfdaddy Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 thanks have to see if they are different. stay neat in the seat ! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24944-laser-cut-injectors-e-tech-460-stage-2-all-talk-no-go/#findComment-118027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackpro Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 SGday Logtruckman, have you any idea if those injectors would do sum good in a 470 CCRS motor, or if there's other ways to get them going. Seems they cant make any-more boost, mines good for 32psi, if it goes to 33 the prick of a thing derates. Any advice - much appreciated.Here in the States the CCRS 460 has a wategated turbo and if you try to change anything or adjust the wastegate for more boost it will derate the engine when it overboost's past specs. The 427 HP CCRS's dont have this feature or the high$$$$ wastegated turbo. When customers come in for factory HP upgrades on a CCRS we usually steer them towards the 427 for this reason. We have actually turned a 460 down to a 427 due to the customer always swapping custom turbos and injectors.I saw a Detroit 60 series wategated turbo bolted on the exhaust manifold one day on that truck. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24944-laser-cut-injectors-e-tech-460-stage-2-all-talk-no-go/#findComment-118245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamkar Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 How much boost do your CCRS engines make, we didn't have a 427, we had 370, 435 & 470. The way i see it, you cant have more power without making more boost, but i could be wrong (God knows, i'v been wrong before !) If i derated my 470, could i play with turbo, injecters etc to get some more out of it ? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24944-laser-cut-injectors-e-tech-460-stage-2-all-talk-no-go/#findComment-118297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rw613 Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 thanks have to see if they are different. stay neat in the seat ! if you dont do the turbo exhaust is allways going to be hot antrim diesel 1717 597 7963 they match turbo and injectors Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24944-laser-cut-injectors-e-tech-460-stage-2-all-talk-no-go/#findComment-118304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caplumly Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 I am the buddy of wolf daddy I have done everything I could think of changed air and fuel filters checked supply pump pressure which was 60 lbs idle re adjusted the valves had a few exhaust too tight and a few loose intakes thought it was part of the problem and still no change. Today was a lot cooler than yesterday noticed less smoke than it had been blowing but still runs the same. Boost press. Is running around 36-37 as it had before with stock injectors...everyone I've talked to so far keeps saying I'm not getting enough air but I can't c that being the issue there is no smoke on a pull and its not running any better so it must be burning it...I talked to Rochester yesterday after I ran it for a week they were pretty clueless on why its running so hot and the no power gain they said they have never sold a bad set of injectors before but offered to send another set...as of right now that's the only thing I can think of being wrong... I wouldn't let are local mack garage touch my bicycle they act clueless every time I ask questions and every time one of are trucks have made a visit there they come back running worse I'm pretty sure they could screw up a wet dream.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24944-laser-cut-injectors-e-tech-460-stage-2-all-talk-no-go/#findComment-118607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfdaddy Posted May 15, 2012 Author Share Posted May 15, 2012 hey lilgear jammer get that dog barking yet ? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/24944-laser-cut-injectors-e-tech-460-stage-2-all-talk-no-go/#findComment-119450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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