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stare at the picture puts the good days to mind. went back to my profile pictures "days gone by" two pictures of the yard on south Lenard st Mack rented  for parking. two orange DM600 steel nose parked in front of Bozzutos "new " F models. also a steel nose 600 carrying the long wheel base MB. your   bumper "fish bowls" make me laugh every time. to have a dollar for every set I installed back then.

I wanna say it’s a Dulux I don’t know. I haven’t looked at it in a long time. I just saw it about six months when I was looking for something that quick farms needed. I did not find what I was looking for, but I spotted that thing.

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2 hours ago, Brocky said:

That looks like a Quebec Canada truck??? Are you using it in Conn for your business???

Several companies used them back in the day because of the 80,000-lbs gross weight pay-load 26-ton O&G spec's were 285-hp  6-speed bad decision ...

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Ed

2 hours ago, mowerman said:

I’ve got a picture of one of those in my bedroom wall. Mechohaulic was familiar with the outfit. I’m sure will hear from him.

quite right !😄.I remember them well ;  along with the gold O&G fleet.

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also the "locals" have heard the story =true or not of the calendar produced by Mack which showed the Hi-Ho twin axle and not the O&G twin drive.  of which both companies purchased 20 + - each .

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1 minute ago, mechohaulic said:

also the "locals" have heard the story =true or not of the calendar produced by Mack which showed the Hi-Ho twin axle and not the O&G twin drive.  of which both companies purchased 20 + - each .

Ford's Sterling's.......pay now or pay later ?

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Ed

I've noticed O&G reusing old fleet numbers.  back then I prepped O&G 356- 376 triaxles (Mack DM600's).twin drives were numbered in the 400 series (448 etc ). now newer units run same numbers- last 3 digits at least. will credit O&G for being innovators in trucking; seemed to always be first trying new ideas::: tri-axles/ twin steer/ the pup tag along dumps. Mack could have done so well if only for a calendar, pete/ KW have the lead now.

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27 minutes ago, blackdog2 said:

Several companies used them back in the day because of the 80,000-lbs gross weight pay-load 26-ton O&G spec's were 285-hp  6-speed bad decision ...

Thanks, I had only seen that twin steer and spread drives set up in Quebec.. Did not know Conn's weight distribution laws allowed them down here????

Brocky

either no one is paying attention (law enforcement) , or twins don't earn their keep. more basic triaxles run here now then twin steer. possibly a custom use truck will have a different configuration  (wrecker) , no new twin steer that I have seen hauling dirt. don't recall Pete or KW entering the twin steer dumps  now or then.

7 hours ago, blackdog2 said:

350-12-speed 24-volt..

Straight up 24 volt trucks? Like 24 volt lights and everything?

42 minutes ago, blackdog2 said:

O&G spec's were 285-hp  6-speed bad decision

Why didn't that work for them? Back in the 80's and 90's we ran 80,000 plus every day with ENDT676 and six speeds. 

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I doubt 24 volt lights, At that time period no sealed beam 24 volt lights met the DOT regs, Military headlights were sealed but didn't meet the other requirements for light pattern.

I know, I had to convert 24 volt stuff to DOT regs.

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27 minutes ago, Geoff Weeks said:

I doubt 24 volt lights, At that time period no seald beam 24 volt lights met the DOT regs, Military headlights were sealed but didn't meet the other requirements for light pattern.

I know, I had to convert 24 volt stuff to DOT regs.

Yeah I did some conversions to 12 volt. PIA, because switches, wires, everything just not made to handle 12 volt amperage. Maybe today with LED lighting it might be a bit easier

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On stuff I did 99.9% of the wiring was more than what was needed for 12 volt. I can't think of a single time we needed to change the wiring size.

Before the days of solid state "converters" Vanner battery balancers were the only option, for 12 volt supply. Some stuff could be put in series, but not headlights. The must be able to operate with one light blown.

 Back in the 80's the Vanner's were big clunky things.

Motor coaches were 24 volt almost from the beginning.

headlights were the main thing that was needed for DOT, the rest didn't matter what voltage the bulbs were. Tail light, brake light, turn signals all had to be there and work, but the bulb voltage is irrelevant.

 It only mattered for headlights because the bulb also contained the lens and dispearsment pattern.

Rest of the required equipment (wipers, defroster etc) didn't matter either.

 Only time 24 volt becomes a problem is if it has to tow a trailer that interchanges with 12 volt tractors.

6 minutes ago, Geoff Weeks said:

On stuff I did 99.9% of the wiring was more than what was needed for 12 volt. I can't think of a single time we needed to change the wiring size.

Before the days of solid state "converters" Vanner battery balancers were the only option, for 12 volt supply. Some stuff could be put in series, but not headlights. The must be able to operate with one light blown.

 Back in the 80's the Vanner's were big clunky things.

Motor coaches were 24 volt almost from the beginning.

headlights were the main thing that was needed for DOT, the rest didn't matter what voltage the bulbs were. Tail light, brake light, turn signals all had to be there and work, but the bulb voltage is irrelevant.

 It only mattered for headlights because the bulb also contained the lens and dispearsment pattern.

Rest of the required equipment (wipers, defroster etc) didn't matter either.

 Only time 24 volt becomes a problem is if it has to tow a trailer that interchanges with 12 volt tractors.

I did a bunch of trailers and towable equipment like a COW (Cell on wheels) tower and all the wiring was too small. It's been a lot of years ago, but if I remember right it was 18 gauge for all the marker/stop/turn/tail light lighting.

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