other dog Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 I saw this picture on FB, the fellow that posted it said it was a late '40s W series International.So I said it was a W-71 Mack, and the headlights and grill must have been changed, and posted the same picture between two W-71s.Then he posted this picture from a 2004 Wheels of Time-I've never seen or heard of these before. The cab does look a lot like a W-71, but the red one looks exactly like a W-71 cab. Wonder if Mack made them stop making them because of the similarity? And the W-71 was made from '53 to '58- wonder if Mack took the design from International?..I just don't know, anybody? Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/26547-strange-international/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveigou Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 That'a a rare bird. Years ago there was an article in Overdrive magazine (many years ago), I remember them talking about the flat floor, and all kinds of room in the cab. Don't remember much of anything else. Quote See my Flickr photostream page http://www.flickr.com/photos/96692978@N05/ Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/26547-strange-international/#findComment-131352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Dash Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Quad headlights aside, I think it looks like an early Peterbilt, but I couldn't find a photo for comparison. Quote Jim Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/26547-strange-international/#findComment-131354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 WoW! Very interesting.One thing I noticed is how the windshield glass is cut. The Mack has rounded corners and the IH looks to have more of a square cut.Some many other features say IH.Was this a case where both cabs came out of Orrville or some other sub contractor?I will be interested to hear the story behind this one.Thanks for sharing.Jim Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/26547-strange-international/#findComment-131365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 This is a International W-3034-L. Fred Crismon's book says these were built around 1947, and has a photo in his book of one built for LASME. A similar single axle W-3042-L model was built in very low numbers in 1946. According to the Stan Holtzman book. Paul Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/26547-strange-international/#findComment-131398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted July 31, 2012 Author Share Posted July 31, 2012 WoW! Very interesting.One thing I noticed is how the windshield glass is cut. The Mack has rounded corners and the IH looks to have more of a square cut.Some many other features say IH.Was this a case where both cabs came out of Orrville or some other sub contractor?I will be interested to hear the story behind this one.Thanks for sharing.Jimyeah, and they're rounded like the Mack on the red one, but the vents and step under the door are the same as on the WOT IH.The red one has no IH emblem that I can see, or a bulldog either. That red one still looks way similar to the W-71, much more so than the one in Wheels of Time. Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/26547-strange-international/#findComment-131401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted July 31, 2012 Author Share Posted July 31, 2012 Quad headlights aside, I think it looks like an early Peterbilt, but I couldn't find a photo for comparison.like this? Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/26547-strange-international/#findComment-131402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Dash Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 like this?Uh...yeah...I guess that's what I was....thinking.... Quote Jim Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/26547-strange-international/#findComment-131570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOB DINGSDALE Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 thats a long way from a Pete cab.closer to KW.They were made the same place as the first series WESTCOASTER Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/26547-strange-international/#findComment-131605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 thats a long way from a Pete cab.closer to KW.They were made the same place as the first series WESTCOASTERyes, it's closer to this- or the way this used to be anyway. Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/26547-strange-international/#findComment-131620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vision386 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 I have a picture of one of these in one of my truck books (W-model IH) i will see if i can find it................................................Mark Quote Mack Truck literate. Computer illiterate. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/26547-strange-international/#findComment-131669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vision386 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 I cant remember where i read it,wheels of time maybe? but there was a discussion about why the G-model Mack was so short-lived,and according to what a remember,it was something about trademark rights/simmilarities between Macks cab and the Kenworth cab of the same era,gotta admit they are pretty similar eh?....................................Mark Quote Mack Truck literate. Computer illiterate. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/26547-strange-international/#findComment-131675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Mark, I heard the doors from a KW would fit on the G.I cant remember where i read it,wheels of time maybe? but there was a discussion about why the G-model Mack was so short-lived,and according to what a remember,it was something about trademark rights/simmilarities between Macks cab and the Kenworth cab of the same era,gotta admit they are pretty similar eh?....................................MarkMark - I heard someone say the doors from the KW would fit the G. Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/26547-strange-international/#findComment-131677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Grand pa of the Emeryville This is a International W-3034-L. Fred Crismon's book says these were built around 1947, and has a photo in his book of one built for LASME. A similar single axle W-3042-L model was built in very low numbers in 1946. According to the Stan Holtzman book. Paul 2 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/26547-strange-international/#findComment-131683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 Grand pa of the EmeryvilleThis is a International W-3034-L. Fred Crismon's book says these were built around 1947, and has a photo in his book of one built for LASME. A similar single axle W-3042-L model was built in very low numbers in 1946. According to the Stan Holtzman book. PaulThank you for the pictures. Well I'll be! I thought i'd seen most everything, or at least heard of everything, but this IH is all new to me. Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/26547-strange-international/#findComment-131743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 The clue was the 3 Diamond Badge in the "grey" photo. I.H used that badge until 49 or 50. Paul Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/26547-strange-international/#findComment-131792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ditchkus Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Paul Fred Crimson's book paid off already in information for you and the rest of us. Joe D. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/26547-strange-international/#findComment-131823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Paul Fred Crimson's book paid off already in information for you and the rest of us. Joe D.Sure did!! Even answered a lot of Questions on my I.H. that I didn't even have. Paul Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/26547-strange-international/#findComment-131848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 i thought it was a kenworth myself,,,if you guys remember back,,theres been cab manufacturers that made cabs for more than 1 make with same white,autocar,diamond reo,,,and reo,and IH,,even made a mack, hayes,mack,with a ford cab,,,know a guy that has one,,ive also seen austrailian macks that look like western stars,so these similarities dont surprize me by the way,,,i used to own a F600 that was an old greyhound rig.bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/26547-strange-international/#findComment-131971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOB DINGSDALE Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Hayes used the F model cabover cab.Mack called it the Interstater and Hayes called it the Clipper.One here in town,couple up Island.Rusted out fairly fast here same as the Budd cab rusted out ahead of there time. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/26547-strange-international/#findComment-132013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOB DINGSDALE Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 I hope the yellow one and blue one are on somebody restoration program. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/26547-strange-international/#findComment-132014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Hayes used the F model cabover cab.Mack called it the Interstater and Hayes called it the Clipper.One here in town,couple up Island.Rusted out fairly fast here same as the Budd cab rusted out ahead of there time.you know,,,i think ive only seen 2 in my life,,,not very common.bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/26547-strange-international/#findComment-132091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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