2stacksuperdog Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I like short trailers but with frames. Quote Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share Posted June 9, 2013 On a side note...a frameless or 1/4 frame dump trailer has less chance of flipping the tractor over if it goes over. Frame trailers tend to pull the tractor over or damage the frame of the truck...The bad part of a frameless is that all the weight of the trailer goes to the rear axel when dumping. If the ground is soft you have to be real careful. 1/4 frames are much more stable on soft ground. Not sure if it's still true with todays new dumps...but a frameless could raise higher and thus the load would not get stuck in the nose as easy as a 1/4 frame or frame dump...if you ever watch a frameless raise up you will see that some of them will have the spread pan nearly touch the ground and the front axel will be over the tractors rear rear axle. Have seen a few guys set the back of the trailer flat on the ground...aka "rocket man! " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdog2 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Mack has no free play in its suspension not like air ride .The bag stretches out then the counter weight axels start to work then its to late. Quote Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57 bcr Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 This R-model looks like an o/o pulling a John Brady trailer. I don't think this is a company truck, but I could be wrong.See that guy everyday,Brian.He pulls out of Yd.5.yes he is an O/O. Quote IF YOU BOUGHT IT, A TRUCK BROUGHT IT..AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT, A TRUCK WILL HAUL IT AWAY!!! Big John Trimble,WRVA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCDrum Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Yes. A quarter frame and full frame tandems stay on the ground, while a frameless balances on the rear axle.I'll post a few pics for illustration purposes. The green R-model is my Dads old truck with a frameless Axledump trailer. You can see the front axle off the ground. The two shots of the conveyors are me dumpinginto them with a quarter frame. You can see the wheels on the ground. Quarter frames are good forconveyors or paving. The yellow Pete was my old company truck and I was picking up a new full frameEast Genesis. This trailer had a spread axle on it and when it was loaded the front axle would come offthe ground an inch or two when dumping due to the frame flex. Also like Mackey said the quarter andframeless come in handy when your tires are spinning. Just hold the Johnny bar, let the box down andtry to walk yourself outThose are pretty cool pics using the coal chute into the conveyor. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 On a side note...a frameless or 1/4 frame dump trailer has less chance of flipping the tractor over if it goes over. Frame trailers tend to pull the tractor over or damage the frame of the truck...The bad part of a frameless is that all the weight of the trailer goes to the rear axel when dumping. If the ground is soft you have to be real careful. 1/4 frames are much more stable on soft ground. Not sure if it's still true with todays new dumps...but a frameless could raise higher and thus the load would not get stuck in the nose as easy as a 1/4 frame or frame dump...if you ever watch a frameless raise up you will see that some of them will have the spread pan nearly touch the ground and the front axel will be over the tractors rear rear axle. Have seen a few guys set the back of the trailer flat on the ground...aka "rocket man! "That last part sounds f@*king scary! Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share Posted June 9, 2013 It happens when you have a stuck load or you forgot to open the tailgate. You back up,stab the brakes and if you do it to fast it sits down on its end,and pulls the tractors rears off the ground. Hopefully it comes to rest upright. That's the easy part...trying to get it back down without rolling it I don't know...haven't done it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share Posted June 9, 2013 Thanks, the conveyors, pump trucks and stone slingers have really taken off around here in the last twenty years.Alot of that stuff would have been shoveled in by bobcat years ago but now its just easier to rent truck for a couplehours and be done with it. They work pretty darn good.Does the stone flow pretty freely outbthe coal shute or does it jam up a lot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PVASS Posted June 10, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2013 (edited) Here are three photos of a 1968 Mack Truck Model R685T that I photographed in May 2013 at the ATHS Truck Show at Maggio's Truck Center just south of Rockford, IL. This truck belongs to Tom Bisognani & Sons. Really a nice truck!Paul V. Edited June 10, 2013 by PVASS 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCDrum Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 That's nice. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted June 12, 2013 Author Share Posted June 12, 2013 Yea grade 8 when wet is almost like 1/2 dried concrete that's why I was wondering. And the locking jaws better be good to hold the weight of stone...I have never had to unload they a Shute...just wondering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 I got a pic somewhere I took in 01 when lamberch had 90rds parked on holbolt rd and I 80 on a lot they were using man they had the iron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmh774 Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Yea, it's a shame to see lambrecht closing the doors. I moved 7 pices of equipment for them yesterday and was talking to the laborer and his dad worked there for 35 plus years started as a stake pounder and ended as on of the vp's. there were 5 members of his family that worked for tjl. There trucks were always clean for being a dirt contractor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 yea a know a guy there that worked there since him and i got out of high school.since 1976.yea there stuff was always clean.they are pretty much done ithink when ohara is done so are they.think they are done with arsenal rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCDrum Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted June 18, 2013 Author Share Posted June 18, 2013 I saw north field had some new Mack's running around... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storkmack Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I saw north field had some new Mack's running around...They have MP 7's in them with generic trans and rears in them. The driver I talked to really like his. -Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillon07 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 WOW these are priceless collection the oldies... and these trucks are better then today's latest technology trucks. because they pull more load on them with good power.. anyhow thanks for sharing these photos.. I like all of them, great sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted June 20, 2013 Author Share Posted June 20, 2013 I gotta get a good camera...I have seen so many r models lately but my camera phone is bad at distant shots... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95k1500 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 A friend took these pictures of this monster truck for me. He was at Ritchie Bros. in Morris IL andcame across this beast. Although this truck is probably not from around here, it still looks cool. I am almost sure this truck has been for sale in the Truck/Equipment Trader somewhere in WIS.It's here now till it finds a new home.I believe I saw this one hauled off on a low boy Monday. My shop is right down the road from RB Morris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenlunberg Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Nice images! I love the mack dump truck! Quote Heavy Hauling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57 bcr Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Gonna call this truck a northern IL R-model as it spends its time around the WIS/IL border. This R is owned by the Delong company and is used to take chemicals out to their field sprayers. They have 3 or 4 R's that look similar. This one must have had some leakage issues as it looked like their was a tube of caulk spread around each cab light.I like their paint scheme,Brian! Quote IF YOU BOUGHT IT, A TRUCK BROUGHT IT..AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT, A TRUCK WILL HAUL IT AWAY!!! Big John Trimble,WRVA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57 bcr Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 This is a Schrieber Disposal R-model roll-off from Elgin. They also have a Granite and a 450 Ford. Only three trucks,and this one has been around for as long as I can remember. Still out working everyday.Seen it the other day also.That truck HAS been around for awhile.But then again,it is a !! Quote IF YOU BOUGHT IT, A TRUCK BROUGHT IT..AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT, A TRUCK WILL HAUL IT AWAY!!! Big John Trimble,WRVA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 I'm working 103&burly right by the cal river the pic of the Morton salt blding is north of down town if you were on Torrence and saw Walsh const yard I am behind there and across the river Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenlunberg Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Nice photos Brad! Very cool! Quote Heavy Hauling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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