mackey58 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Caption for that pic says 1980 at ohara moved a million yards of dirt in 90 days nice Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28785-chicago-r-models/page/143/#findComment-389143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranchhopper Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 That lindahl truck is hauling snow I remember that storm we were punching holes through it with locomotives had to be careful not to ride up on the hard drifts and derail ourselves. Had to really watch and be ready with the brakes around bends you come up on a nine or ten foot drift the weight of the consist would push you right up on the snow hard to believe something as heavy as a locomotive could be derailed by snow. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28785-chicago-r-models/page/143/#findComment-389158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Man I bet plowing with locomotives was damn cool 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28785-chicago-r-models/page/143/#findComment-389162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
70mackMB Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 There are some great videos on YouTube of trains moving snow. ..........Hippy Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28785-chicago-r-models/page/143/#findComment-389163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranchhopper Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 hour ago, mackey58 said: Man I bet plowing with locomotives was damn cool Its kind of like this if your the first down the line after a night of blowing snow tough to see the whistle boards coming up on the crossings in this video you can see one before hitting the heavy snow. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28785-chicago-r-models/page/143/#findComment-389173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Oh man that's awesome Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28785-chicago-r-models/page/143/#findComment-389180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 runnnig blind that is scary all in itself Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28785-chicago-r-models/page/143/#findComment-389181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranchhopper Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) The soft fresh snow like the video shows isn't bad and if you hit something while pushing up that plume of snow you would never know it its the hard packed snow drifts that are dangerous for those you use one of these. You can hear how they notch it up a bit and pull back as not to pack the rotary tight with snow. Edited January 7, 2018 by ranchhopper 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28785-chicago-r-models/page/143/#findComment-389182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 7 hours ago, mackey58 said: It was soft fluffy dry black dirt and I think he was on or close to the edge don't think he even got the box up had another pic of one on our job in minooka a couple years ago he was on an angle and the bed was leaning as he pulled forward tore position he flopped over sure did`nt know those things were that flexible in the middle Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28785-chicago-r-models/page/143/#findComment-389183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranchhopper Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Usually the trailer will go over then like in slow motion the tension in the frame will snap the tractor over in the blink of an eye I saw a guy get hurt pretty bad that way years ago. They were dumping fill in a marsh his trailer wasn't at the top of the second stage yet and it gently laid over on the passenger side. The guys name was Buddy he got out and was standing on the fuel tank on the drivers side and the spring tension in the trailer flipped the tractor over too one of the bad attributes of frame style dump trailers.. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28785-chicago-r-models/page/143/#findComment-389184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, ranchhopper said: Usually the trailer will go over then like in slow motion the tension in the frame will snap the tractor over in the blink of an eye I saw a guy get hurt pretty bad that way years ago. They were dumping fill in a marsh his trailer wasn't at the top of the second stage yet and it gently laid over on the passenger side. The guys name was Buddy he got out and was standing on the fuel tank on the drivers side and the spring tension in the trailer flipped the tractor over too one of the bad attributes of frame style dump trailers.. i understand tractor frames i was wondering why it did`nt turn the power unit over to Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28785-chicago-r-models/page/143/#findComment-389185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobert62 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, ranchhopper said: Usually the trailer will go over then like in slow motion the tension in the frame will snap the tractor over in the blink of an eye I saw a guy get hurt pretty bad that way years ago. They were dumping fill in a marsh his trailer wasn't at the top of the second stage yet and it gently laid over on the passenger side. The guys name was Buddy he got out and was standing on the fuel tank on the drivers side and the spring tension in the trailer flipped the tractor over too one of the bad attributes of frame style dump trailers.. About 20 years ago dad hauled scrap in a dump trailer. Guy had a baler, and he would by scrap yards tin piles. They would bale it and sell it as prepared. Guy he was leased to had quite a few fall over. Some just the trailers some the whole outfit. One guy was standing on the fuel tank when the trailer went over then pulled the truck over after. It slung the guy like superman through the air. He was lucky to only injure arm and shoulder. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28785-chicago-r-models/page/143/#findComment-389187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hobert62 said: About 20 years ago dad hauled scrap in a dump trailer. Guy had a baler, and he would by scrap yards tin piles. They would bale it and sell it as prepared. Guy he was leased to had quite a few fall over. Some just the trailers some the whole outfit. One guy was standing on the fuel tank when the trailer went over then pulled the truck over after. It slung the guy like superman through the air. He was lucky to only injure arm and shoulder. we`re not talking about a tractor trailer i`m refering to that turned over haul truck Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28785-chicago-r-models/page/143/#findComment-389188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranchhopper Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Hobert62 said: About 20 years ago dad hauled scrap in a dump trailer. Guy had a baler, and he would by scrap yards tin piles. They would bale it and sell it as prepared. Guy he was leased to had quite a few fall over. Some just the trailers some the whole outfit. One guy was standing on the fuel tank when the trailer went over then pulled the truck over after. It slung the guy like superman through the air. He was lucky to only injure arm and shoulder. That's what happened to this guy he hit the ground head first on the other side of the truck. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28785-chicago-r-models/page/143/#findComment-389189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobert62 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 16 minutes ago, carlotpilot said: we`re not talking about a tractor trailer i`m refering to that turned over haul truck I've never been around them, but it looks like they are made to do that. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28785-chicago-r-models/page/143/#findComment-389191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Hobert62 said: I've never been around them, but it looks like they are made to do that. i see what you mean that was what i was trying to figure out. unless that truck flipped after the pic was taken he walked away with just his final pay check and a severe ass chewing Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28785-chicago-r-models/page/143/#findComment-389192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Yes they are made to do that Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28785-chicago-r-models/page/143/#findComment-389206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobert62 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 2 hours ago, PeterMack said: With all this flipping over talk it reminded I saw this picture. Sounds like it happened in Elmhurst. Obviously a former Martin trailer, not sure what kind of truck it was. He was jackknifed pretty bad to flop it on himself. I don't think I've ever attempted to dump like that. I don't like not being able to see what the trailer is doing. How do you dump a frameless like that? When the box goes up the trailer tandem gets closer to the truck. With the dirt coming out the back how do you put the box back down? The tandem won't go back again. With it jack knifed that hard you have to pull the truck ahead and twist the trailer with the box up? "I have no first hand experience with a frameless, please forgive my dumbness" Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28785-chicago-r-models/page/143/#findComment-389221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Many times I ve had to dump on a 90 degree angle hate doing that with that framless axle trailer .ya ease it forward and your best to watch it will lower when you lower it 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28785-chicago-r-models/page/143/#findComment-389222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobert62 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 How does it lower with a pile behind it? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28785-chicago-r-models/page/143/#findComment-389223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Straight is the best and watch the tires on the rear axle if one side or the other settles off more than the other I release the Johnson and let the trailer walk forward easy if it still looks weird I put it down and hope I can re position it Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28785-chicago-r-models/page/143/#findComment-389224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 I have had to dump almost at 90 a few times and I dont like it at all. If its stone , slow and easy and it comes out ok but any type of dirt and clay 1/4 gets stuck most times. the only way to do it is to set the tractor brakes ,dump and then lower it back down while pulling the tractor up untill the weight of the trailer coming down starts to help move you forward...then pul lup 5' and do it again so it all comes out. its not so bad on pavement but you have to watch it the whole time. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28785-chicago-r-models/page/143/#findComment-389232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Yeah stone ain't bad dumping in the trench on a 90 on a busy road is fun.dirt and clay sucks any time in that framless unless it's July and 95 and it sint rained in a month lol Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28785-chicago-r-models/page/143/#findComment-389233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 They say a frameless will raise higher than a 1/4 frame but I have seen some of the new 1/4 frames and they do just as good and keep all 4 corners on the ground. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28785-chicago-r-models/page/143/#findComment-389234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I miss my r and s quarter frame 24 ft 2 way gate it was nice but 08 came and outta 6 trucks he kept the lowboy semi and my six wheeler I liked all 4 wheels on the ground Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28785-chicago-r-models/page/143/#findComment-389235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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