jakebrake86 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Does anybody know if the black OEM style insulation is still available anywhere? The interior in my 96 RD is pretty clean except for the cracked up, dry rotted piece of insulation under the dash. The local Mack dealer can't find it in his system anymore. I've seen people put black carpet over it before, but I really don't want to go that route. Thanks! Quote Jake Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28987-r-model-firewall-insulation/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdog Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 have you tried PAI ?? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28987-r-model-firewall-insulation/#findComment-152750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb502 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I pulled all the interior out of mine and put two layers of dynomat everywhere I could get it, best thing I ever did, makes it as quiet as a new pinnacle, and keeps the heat from the firewall and floor out. Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28987-r-model-firewall-insulation/#findComment-152787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Yep did the same thing, rubber paint,dynomat,carpet on the firewall. Also did the doors,rear wall,floor and roof, made it real quiet, still want to make a flat firewall panel that is on the outer cab to further silence the road noise.might even put that hood mat stuff under the hood. . Biggest noise issue on my cab was from the firewall/ steering shaft hole and gear stick holes. Even with my straight stacks It's pretty quiet now. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28987-r-model-firewall-insulation/#findComment-152812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vision386 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I pulled all the interior out of mine and put two layers of dynomat everywhere I could get it, best thing I ever did, makes it as quiet as a new pinnacle, and keeps the heat from the firewall and floor out.Been reading up on dynomat,thinking of putting it under the floor of my 70' Chevy pickup next time i take it apart,good stuff? does it work? don't know anyone personally thats used it,just wanted to get some opinions before i look into buying it........................Mark Quote Mack Truck literate. Computer illiterate. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28987-r-model-firewall-insulation/#findComment-152819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I used dynomat on the firewall only, everything els was the foil backed asphalt roofing material that comes in a roll. Dynomat is pricy to do the whole cab in. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28987-r-model-firewall-insulation/#findComment-152824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phildirt Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I have use both Lizard Skin and Dynamat. Both work well and beat using tar paper. You probably only want to these jobs once- do it right and it is cheaper. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28987-r-model-firewall-insulation/#findComment-152828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 If i can ask...What was wrong with the tar paper. Mine has been holding up great for past 3 years, no smell after a few weeks, truck is parked out doors all the time? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28987-r-model-firewall-insulation/#findComment-152832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKS Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Roof flashing or ice guard sold in home depot is very similar and a lot cheaper,also there is an insulation sold in marine stores that some say is the best stuff on the market but pricy,rubber backed carpet is also a good choice for the inside fire wall,cab isolation is the key,the more the cab is isolated from the frame the quieter it will be.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28987-r-model-firewall-insulation/#findComment-152837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb502 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 I like the DYnomat it worked great, I put it in 3 trucks and my old Camaro, I have to get to HiFi buys and get 2 more project packs to do the cab of the 85 Superliner now, I did 2 layers on the floor/firewall, one layer in the roof,back wall,door panels and it made it freakin awesome. I will do it to every truck I have after the first one, it makes a huge difference in the heat transmitted thru the floor and firewall and cuts the road and engine noise in half, I could set my phone on the dash on speaker and talk going down the road in an 84 Superliner with an E9, pretty serious difference from barely hearing anything with the phone on my ear. I used almost all of two project packs that have 100sq.ft. a pack I think I have two half sheets left when I was done. I think its about $200 bucks a pack now but I still think its worth it, buy a good 2" wide hard rubber roller to put it in with and get some new blades for a carpet knife to cut it then you are set, if you cut it while its cool(under 70 degrees) its not as sticky and is easier to work with, then once I had it in the truck I put a space heater in ther and got it hot as I could and got in and rolled it all down a nsecond time then did the other layer. I am kinda anal about this kind of stuff so I go to extremes most would not but its done right when Im finished I dont have to do it again. I would also recommend a turbo blanket to all E9 owners it keeps the heat from the turbo off the firewall and in the exhaust where it belongs. 1 Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28987-r-model-firewall-insulation/#findComment-152869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakebrake86 Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share Posted December 24, 2012 have you tried PAI ??The same people that make rebuild kits? I didn't know they made anything else. Quote Jake Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28987-r-model-firewall-insulation/#findComment-152926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakebrake86 Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share Posted December 24, 2012 Dynamat, huh? Never heard of it, but I'll definitely check it out. The biggest reason for doing it was looks, but if it makes it quieter and easier to cool in the summer, I'm all for it! Thanks for the help! Quote Jake Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28987-r-model-firewall-insulation/#findComment-152928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLEEPER DOG Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Hey Superdog. When you insulated the firewall did you put it on the engine or interior side? Thanks Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28987-r-model-firewall-insulation/#findComment-152990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb502 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Hey Superdog. When you insulated the firewall did you put it on the engine or interior side? Thanksinterior behind the carpet, I put one layer on got it rolled into all the corners then put the other layer on overlapping the seams then replaced the carpet, its kind of a pin to get it up into the cowl around the corners but man its worth it. Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28987-r-model-firewall-insulation/#findComment-153000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Guys, don't use DYNOMITE under the floor! Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28987-r-model-firewall-insulation/#findComment-153021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb502 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 no you use DYNOMITE in a Freightliner you use DYNOMAT in a Mack! 1 Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28987-r-model-firewall-insulation/#findComment-153025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKS Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 interior behind the carpet, I put one layer on got it rolled into all the corners then put the other layer on overlapping the seams then replaced the carpet, its kind of a pin to get it up into the cowl around the corners but man its worth it.Just keep in mind it's a sound deadener not a sound blocker it deadens the sound by stopping noise that is caused by vibrations in the sheet metal.If you can add something to absorb some of the sound waves bouncing around it would help a lot,but you'll never reach the quietness of a newer truck because of the way the newer trucks are isolated from the frame and drive train,floating on those big air bags.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28987-r-model-firewall-insulation/#findComment-153079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb502 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Yeah but a new truck has no style and no E9 I say no to look alike fuel mileage freight haulers. Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28987-r-model-firewall-insulation/#findComment-153105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 I saw this at MATS a few years ago. I ordered some for my MH but have not installed it. Although it is carpet, it does have some sound deadening properties. They sell bulk uncut pieces. 52sf at $180 + shipping.http://www.classeight.com/ Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/28987-r-model-firewall-insulation/#findComment-153113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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