ejensen21 Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Hey guys i'm restoring a 1960 b81 I want to put in a 300 tip turbine engine in place of a 673 i have the hole R model that the engines coming out of what will it take me to do this i will be taking the cab off the truck when this hole thing goes on i want to run the stock 20 speed i know that its a lot of power but i'm not going to work the truck just take it to shows but if its to much even for that i have a 2 stick 6speed and a 10speed fuller with the mack bell housing adapter how hard would it be to put one of those in could i use the R model engine and tranny mounts will the frame with be diffrent the R model is a 1977 the b81 is a tractor with 65 rear also with wet line also the b 81 has hyd power steering and deap floor pans in the cab Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/2964-673-to-300tip-turbine/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejensen21 Posted October 18, 2007 Author Share Posted October 18, 2007 ok the 300 will go right in i have another ? would a two stick 6 speed out of that 77 R model bolt in out will i half to do some frame drilling . the only thing i use this truck for is weekend driving and no one else drives it thanks for all your info on this issue RC51 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/2964-673-to-300tip-turbine/#findComment-14540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 ok the 300 will go right in i have another ? would a two stick 6 speed out of that 77 R model bolt in out will i half to do some frame drilling . the only thing i use this truck for is weekend driving and no one else drives it thanks for all your info on this issue RC51Yes you can use the 6 speed and i would not drill another hole in the frame back there but would build to fit the frame brackets to fit the r mondel trans mounts and you frame will last longer. You will use the old engine front cover damper and pulley and hub with the b model water pump. If you use the 6speed trhe you will have to make a reverse pull type clutch linkeage which i done in a b61 . glenn Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/2964-673-to-300tip-turbine/#findComment-14542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK Trucking Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 ok the 300 will go right in i have another ? would a two stick 6 speed out of that 77 R model bolt in out will i half to do some frame drilling . the only thing i use this truck for is weekend driving and no one else drives it thanks for all your info on this issue RC51Then in my opinion you should keep the quad box.I swapped a 237 and a 300 into trucks that had quad boxes, and there were no transmission problems.As long as you shift it smoothly and correctly there won't be a problem.A B81 ain't a B81 unless it has a quad box. Quote "If You Can't Shift It Smoothly, You Shouldn't Be Driving It" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/2964-673-to-300tip-turbine/#findComment-14546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Then in my opinion you should keep the quad box.I swapped a 237 and a 300 into trucks that had quad boxes, and there were no transmission problems.As long as you shift it smoothly and correctly there won't be a problem.A B81 ain't a B81 unless it has a quad box.Me and my self would use the quad untill it had to be changed and that may be a long time but that depends on how it is used.The engine will be mounted in the same place which ever trans is used. That is what i would do and the quaw dont even have to be pulled out unless it needs work done on it. Then he can use the b model flywheel and housing and clutch and linkage . glenn Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/2964-673-to-300tip-turbine/#findComment-14548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Then in my opinion you should keep the quad box.I swapped a 237 and a 300 into trucks that had quad boxes, and there were no transmission problems.As long as you shift it smoothly and correctly there won't be a problem.A B81 ain't a B81 unless it has a quad box. And using the quaw box will settle the problem of top speed if the 6 speed was used top speed would be some what slower. glenn Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/2964-673-to-300tip-turbine/#findComment-14549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK Trucking Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 And using the quaw box will settle the problem of top speed if the 6 speed was used top speed would be some what slower. glennYup, running in high gear with the 6 speed will be the same as running with the quad box in 4th direct. Quote "If You Can't Shift It Smoothly, You Shouldn't Be Driving It" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/2964-673-to-300tip-turbine/#findComment-14550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejensen21 Posted October 18, 2007 Author Share Posted October 18, 2007 thanks for all the help guys the 20 speed stays i like it i just don't want to ruin it last ? for the tip turbine will i need to fab duct work to the air box i think this will be a real neet install i got it down to the frame rails and i'm getting ready to build it back up Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/2964-673-to-300tip-turbine/#findComment-14551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK Trucking Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 thanks for all the help guys the 20 speed stays i like it i just don't want to ruin it last ? for the tip turbine will i need to fab duct work to the air box i think this will be a real neet install i got it down to the frame rails and i'm getting ready to build it back up Check this out, this is how Matt Pfahl hooked it up on his B61:http://www.bigmacktrucks.com/index.php?aut...si&img=2371 Quote "If You Can't Shift It Smoothly, You Shouldn't Be Driving It" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/2964-673-to-300tip-turbine/#findComment-14558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Check this out, this is how Matt Pfahl hooked it up on his B61:http://www.bigmacktrucks.com/index.php?aut...si&img=2371I put a late model engine in my b61 and then installed a air/air cooler on the front and it makes big difference in HP but the trouble with a B61 is you can get enough air across the rad. because you cant get rid of it under the hood because ever thing is so tight to the engine and trans so i lifted the cab 3" and move ahead 3" and installed a fan clutch that used a bigger fan that would pull more air. The bmodel fan would not pull enough air. Now the air can get out of the hood area around the back of the engine. For a toy truck it will not matter but we was pulling a trailer loaded all time and up in the co. mountains you could not stay in it untill i changed things. now you can mash on your motor allday. The fan is still too noisey to think. glenn Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/2964-673-to-300tip-turbine/#findComment-14559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejensen21 Posted October 21, 2007 Author Share Posted October 21, 2007 Thanks for the info on the engine swap you guys have been a big help Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/2964-673-to-300tip-turbine/#findComment-14606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyinfarmer440 Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 as long as its trq72 it will bolt right upi had a cat against a trt720 and hauled bannas from del to buffalo with a b75the only diff youll find is the crank hub sticks out towards the radiator about an ainch fartherin the b61 iran the 673 hub but you can machine the 300 hub shorter or set the motor back in the chassisbuy the way you cant use the 67 or smaller series trans Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/2964-673-to-300tip-turbine/#findComment-14740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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