Barry Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 Ok, how about this: send an email asking for overall permission to use ANY photo on Hanks? That should cover it for awhile?Thanks Barry for doing all you do.That's exactly what I did, Larry! We'll see what he has to say about that request! I even offered a Hank's banner as exchange for becoming share partners with us. But we shall see! Quote Barry - Watt's Truck Center Parts Manager and BMT Webmaster...1-888-304-MACK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Superdog Posted February 4, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2013 Maybe I should start charging people who stop here and take pictures.Might make more money than truckin' for a living. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57 bcr Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 More than fair,Barry! You done good! Uh oh,Mike............I owe you $_________, Quote IF YOU BOUGHT IT, A TRUCK BROUGHT IT..AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT, A TRUCK WILL HAUL IT AWAY!!! Big John Trimble,WRVA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staxx Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Well said Barry Thankyou !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Green Dash Posted February 4, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2013 Barry, Thank you for speaking up for the members of BMT and and handling the situation in a civil manner. I fail to see any harm in sharing truck photos with fellow truck enthusiasts on another site provided it is not for profit and credit is given to the photographer.To each is own I guess, but my pictures have no watermarks and have appeared on various sites and in Youtube videos. I don't give a crap, I posted them for others to enjoy and as long as no one is profitting from them, they can post away. My user name on Hank's is Boll Weevil.There aren't a whole lotta pictures of mine on that site but if anyone here has a use for them for "recreational purposes", you have my blessing to use them as you wish. 4 Quote Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 Same here...I have posted hundreds of nice photos from various truck shows and never once complained about people linking to them! I am actually honored when someone reposts my photos! Thanks guys, I will never roll over on any forum issues without a fight! I'm sure Volvo, Mack and the ATHS already know that! LOL! Quote Barry - Watt's Truck Center Parts Manager and BMT Webmaster...1-888-304-MACK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullfuel01 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 ask him if he can read what's written on hanks website. www.hankstruckpictures.com/sissick.htmYou may download any image for personal or non-commercial use only.YOU MAY NOT DOWNLOAD ANY PICTURE FROM THIS WEB SITE TO BE USED ON YOUTUBE OR FACEBOOK.we should all pass the hat to buy him a watts mack shirt, he'll think he've reach the VIP status and he'll be happy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 fullfuel01 Just saw that myself. You beat me to it. Good detective work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stacksuperdog Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Sounds they are a little up tight over there. Quote Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 THANKS Barry for the info and all that you do to moderate this site. As for my pics from truck shows, all I ask is credit for the photos (which you have done). Other "personal" pics that I have taken and posted have my watermark on them. Let's hope Hank's sees the value in allowing pics to be posted on BMT. Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog13407 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 looks like someone is runnin their mouth without even knowin whats posted on the very website he is bitchin about. VIP status? i dont even have that. why should we give out that priveledge who ruffles all our feathers? haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry T Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Several of the guys over at Hanks got up in arms over the past few years because of different people setting up "Truck Spotting" websites then taking the pictures off of other sites like Hanks and posting the pics as their own. I understand why they got upset over those issues but at the same time once you put something on the web, it's on the web.... I think Michael Martinelli (FDNYtrucks.com) has the set up and if the guys over at Hanks are all so concerned about their pic's being stolen then they should do what Michael has done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 Here is the response from Mr. Faust...Actually when the owner or driver of a truck (or supervisor at a terminal) is present I DO ask permission and ask if it is OK to post the photo on a single website. I don't ask if it is ok for other people to steal the photo and post it wherever they want. If I came into your office and swiped a pen off your desk you would probably be mad. If I ASKED first if I could have the pen you would most likely have a different attitude. If I took a photo of a truck in Salt Lake City 30 years ago is it OK for you (who paid nothing for the expenses of the trip, film, camera, etc) to STEAL that image for your own use? Who is the greedy selfish person here Barry!? Funny how the people who take these photos off Hanks are people who don't actually have their own life long collection of THEIR own work. You must not value your own work the way we do if you don't mind if your photos are spread all over the world. Maybe you would feel different if you found your images in a book with someone else's name as credit.You can't argue with these people...they just don't get it. They accuse us of being selfish and greedy but read the above text! Keep your pictures, Mr. Faust...there are plenty of highway photographers that love to share their work! Quote Barry - Watt's Truck Center Parts Manager and BMT Webmaster...1-888-304-MACK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2stacksuperdog Posted February 4, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2013 Its a picture! These guys must have nothing better to do with their lives but complain all day. and they put it on the internet for others to view so if they don't want other people to see "THEIR" pictures don't put them on it! 3 Quote Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcity Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 OD could make a million if he felt the same way.It's too bad that these people want us to pay to appreciate their work. 2 Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiant2 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 No one ever stopped me at the intersection the day some one took a pic of my 761 brockway pulling someone else trailer and then posted it on hanks page, if they want to be dumb ass's then dont take pics of my trucks.any of my bmt friends or brockway friends can use my pics.,, please do.gg2 Quote We the unwilling, Lead by the unqualified, are doing the impossible, for the ungrateful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCDrum Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 This is very interesting. You are taking photos of peoples trucks either working, on the road or at a truck show it really should be fair game. I could see it being a problem if it was a guy who did this for a living and posted pics from a photo shoot so yea that would be a copyright problem. You know a good friend of mine I used to drive for had a pic posted on Flickr that was taken of him going down rt 46 in Jersey and when I told him he was kinda nervous that his truck was all over the internet since he has had trucks stolen in the past. His Pete is beautiful and he should be flattered but some people are funny that way. My point is copyrighting a hobby is stupid as we are all enthusiasts and enjoy what people have to offer with their photos. Cheers, Robert 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Barry Posted February 4, 2013 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2013 Here is my response to Mr. Faust's last email...even though I will never win an argument with a fellow like this, it is just too much fun to try!You are missing the point...I agree that I along with any photographer would not like my images printed in a book with someone else’s credit line. However, when images are downloaded or hot linked from Hank’s, they have your watermark on the bottom of every image, so you are getting credit for taking the photo when posted somewhere on the internet. My forum members are not posting them for profit or trying to steal credit for taking them...sometimes the photos will even come up in a Google Image Search and they have no idea where they are served from. They just enjoy posting and sharing photos of Mack and other antique and classic trucks with their friends on the forum. We are not the evil, photo stealing internet marauders that you think we are! At the end of the day, you can believe what you want about copyrights and intellectual property but I’m glad you aren’t a member of BMT...judging by the attitude and animosity you show towards the thousands of truck enthusiasts we have as members in our community, I’m sure you wouldn’t fit in very well. Thanks for the debate and have a great evening.Barry 13 Quote Barry - Watt's Truck Center Parts Manager and BMT Webmaster...1-888-304-MACK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39 Baby Mack Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Way to go Barry, that was terrific!!!Just the right amount of sarcasm.Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stacksuperdog Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 If only these guys came on here and read this thread! Quote Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39 Baby Mack Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I really think they should! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 41chevy Posted February 4, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2013 how about 10,000 e mails requesting permission to post one of his photos..... 3 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiant2 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 you never know, they might and dont have the balls to say so Quote We the unwilling, Lead by the unqualified, are doing the impossible, for the ungrateful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 how about 10,000 e mails requesting permission to post one of his photos..... and then tell him the quality of the photo does not meet our standards.[pic of Mack truck goes here] Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randyp Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Barry is my hero! Hes gonna be my lawyer and counselor the next hot water i get in. (just dont get in water with me Barry). randyp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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