Popular Post kscarbel Posted February 20, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted February 20, 2013 New Super-Liners are being assembled every day. But you can’t buy one.The U.S. market had the Hayward-produced RWL/RWS Super-Liner from 1977-1983, and the Macungie-produced RWI600/700 Superliner II (utilizing the advanced Ultra-Liner chassis) from 1984 thru 1993 (the last Super-Liner going to Yaworski Trucking).However the legendary Super-Liner’s story didn’t end there for those “down under’. Mack Trucks Australia introduced the third generation Super-Liner in 1996 and it’s been a hot seller ever since. Volvo would like U.S. customers to be satisfied with a Pinnacle, but one look tells you the Aussie Super-Liner is in a whole other class above.Once again, note the impressive chassis packaging, fuel tank mounting and European style rear fender arrangement. Also, note how the raised cab mounting allows for a sloped hood resulting in enhanced visibility.http://www.macktrucks.com.au/assets/mack/Australia/specifications/Superliner_MP10.pdf 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcity Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Don't take this the wrong wayI HATE YOU!!!! Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCDrum Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I was going to say the same thing are you toying with us or tormenting would be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Superdog Posted February 20, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted February 20, 2013 Well,personsonally I don't think they hold a candle to the Superliner II in the looks department,they look too much like a Titan,and I'm no Titan fan.I sure wouldn't trade any of mine for a whole boatload of those. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stacksuperdog Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I like how they kept the square grill otherwise it looks like a titan. Quote Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackdaddy Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 The automatic only for the 685hp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 The automatic only for the 685hp?No, the Volvo I-Shift (rebadged as Mack mDrive) can be spec'd with both the 600 and 685 horsepower ratings of the Volvo D16 (rebadged as Mack MP10) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I like the trident better. This superliner has way to much fender and the body lines don't flow as nice. But think its better than no superliner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Prefer the US version of the Superliner.I understand the concept and need for the high intakes on the trucks over there, but GAWD Damn they look ugly to me!Jim Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackMann85 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 all the pics except for the first and second one are older styled models not new ones. you can see the difference in the grill and headlights 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbigrig Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 You forgot to mention The Superdog was also built in Oakville, Ontario, Canada for both Canadian and American markets. Friends of mine that worked in the engineering dept. at Oakville near the end of the Superliner II model run, had one built for testing with a 60 series Detroit.(Not a 92 series!!) This was before they rolled out the CL series. No one seems to know what happened to that RW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41180 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 i drove our superliner a few days while my CL was down for a new clutch and i had alotof gawkers and compliments on how mack never should have stopped making the superlinerand they were the best looking trucks ever made. they are deffinately a modern classic. but today i got back into my CL and realized how much better it drives and the bigger cab is much more comfortable but theres something about a superliner that makes you feel proud to drive it. I have to ask kscarbel why he is bragging the australian superliner but runs down the us titan ? iits basicly the same truck differant name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 i drove our superliner a few days while my CL was down for a new clutch and i had alotof gawkers and compliments on how mack never should have stopped making the superlinerand they were the best looking trucks ever made. they are deffinately a modern classic. but today i got back into my CL and realized how much better it drives and the bigger cab is much more comfortable but theres something about a superliner that makes you feel proud to drive it. I have to ask kscarbel why he is bragging the australian superliner but runs down the us titan ? iits basicly the same truck differant name. My friend, I'm simply saying that the U.S. product line-up has a void since the Super-Liner was terminated in the U.S. market. The Titan compares with the RW700 for severe service operations, but there is blank place where the higher volume on-highway RW600 once stood. Mack Australia understood this, and created a lighter version of the Titan resulting in the 3rd generation Super-Liner. I queston why it is not sold here.I applaud Mack Australia for seeing beyond Mack U.S.'s shortsightedness and, on there own accord, finding a way to creat a new Super-Liner to meet that long time market niche.As for running down the U.S. market Titan, I have indeed stated that I don't care for the pimp car styling they gave it (excessive chrome everywhere), as compared to the more professional looking Australian market Titan. For this matter, I'm merely expressing my opinion. A little chrome in the right places is tasteful, but excessive use of chrome everywhere is tacky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 My friend, I'm simply saying that the U.S. product line-up has a void since the Super-Liner was terminated in the U.S. market. The Titan compares with the RW713 for severe service operations, but there is blank place where the higher volume on-highway RW613 once stood. Mack Australia understood this, and created a lighter version of the Titan resulting in the 3rd generation Super-Liner. I queston why it is not sold here.I applaud Mack Australia for seeing beyond Mack U.S.'s shortsightedness and, on there own accord, finding a way to creat a new Super-Liner to meet that long time market niche.As for running down the U.S. market Titan, I have indeed stated that I don't care for the pimp car styling they gave it (excessive chrome everywhere), as compared to the more professional looking Australian market Titan. For this matter, I'm merely expressing my opinion. A little chrome in the right places is tasteful, but excessive use of chrome everywhere is tacky.Just what IS Mack Australia? Are they too not operating under the same Volvo direction?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 Just what IS Mack Australia? Are they too not operating under the same Volvo direction?? Mack Australia has always been given leeway to meet the local demand. Much of the current "down under" product range was established during the 1990s under Mack Trucks' watch (to their credit). Volvo has come along and, as in the US market, incorporated the Volvo chassis, engines and I-Shift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Just to add to kscarbels last comment, I think Mack Australia in the early days just had to put up with limited stock and adapt a few different ideas to the conditions out here with the available stock. ie the FR concept as opposed to the F model chassis. And I think that through the 70's and 80's they made a bit of a name for themselves as being reliable for the conditions and so that allowed them a little bit of room to move on future designs for local models.It is interesting to compare looks on Super Liners and Titans over the years between the 2 countries though.Good talk everyone.Skip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41180 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 i agree mack needs a long nose highway tractor with big sleeper options . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackniac Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I like the new Aussie Supeliner but must agree it lloks like too much of the Titans , but at least they are back with somthing for the highway . Quote Makniac , collector and customizer of die-cast model in 1/50th scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41180 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 i dont get all these guys that dont like the america titans . are you crazy ???? best truck mack has made since 1993 and you guys dont like it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 i dont get all these guys that dont like the america titans . are you crazy ???? best truck mack has made since 1993 and you guys dont like it lolFind me a Titan suited for otr or otr heavy haul. with 600hp,18 speed, on air rider rears, WITH A 60" SLEEPER. That is within a few thousand dollars of an equally specked Pete or KW. Good luck... It's the reason it flopped in the us owner operator otr market. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storkmack Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 I really like the looks of the Metro-Liner form down under. I would take one of them with an MP-7 and an M-Drive. - Brad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 Find me a Titan suited for otr or otr heavy haul. with 600hp,18 speed, on air rider rears, WITH A 60" SLEEPER. That is within a few thousand dollars of an equally specked Pete or KW. Good luck... It's the reason it flopped in the us owner operator otr market.And this is why Mack and Mack Australia introduced the Super-Liner III in Australia, a lightened Titan redesigned for long distance on-highway hauling. It's no wonder they look similar, but what does that matter.......the Super-Liner III is a superb looking truck.Which begs the question once more, why doesn't Volvo sell it in the U.S. market where the Super-Liner was a long-time signature Mack product? Who didn't envy the guy driving a Super-Liner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullhusk Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Thank You Brockway for the best lookin Mack ever, the Superliner!BULLHUSK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41180 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 im not in charge of mack trucks i cant build a titan or superliner with a big sleeper. i can only say mack doesnt want to build them i guess im not sure why. they only arket the titan for heavy haul and logging. i guess they think the pinnacle rawhide is there long haul owner operator truck. to me it would be as simple as lengthinig the front of a chu by 10 to 12 inches and sticking a mp10 in there and bango you got a superliner for the road . its not rocket science... come on mack build it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullhusk Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 im not in charge of mack trucks i cant build a titan or superliner with a big sleeper. i can only say mack doesnt want to build them i guess im not sure why. they only arket the titan for heavy haul and logging. i guess they think the pinnacle rawhide is there long haul owner operator truck. to me it would be as simple as lengthinig the front of a chu by 10 to 12 inches and sticking a mp10 in there and bango you got a superliner for the road . its not rocket science... come on mack build it Why? Hell thats an E/Z one, if they put a sleeper on the big Mack, then it would out sell that gawd ugly Volvo sh-t wagon that they sell! and they know it willBULLHUSK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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