GearheadGrrrl Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Discussed over at my blog, http://www.gearheadgrrrl.com Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30056-mack-is-the-bulldog-becoming-a-mutt/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackMann85 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Yawn 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30056-mack-is-the-bulldog-becoming-a-mutt/#findComment-166241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GearheadGrrrl Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 I suppose I could have done a glowing review of a new Mack with Volvo's Mdrive and Meritor axles, but I don't have to rely on Mack/Volvo for ad revenue! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30056-mack-is-the-bulldog-becoming-a-mutt/#findComment-166254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
storkmack Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I agree for the for the most part. The new Macks, despite thier Volvo tendencies, still have a better fit and finish to them as far air lines and wire harnesses than any other class 8 truck. Of coarse, that is my opinion, and we all know what they say abut those. -Brad Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30056-mack-is-the-bulldog-becoming-a-mutt/#findComment-166281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GearheadGrrrl Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 Bein' a mutt ain't so bad when most of the competition is mutts... Navistar is a disaster, Daimler don't get it, and Paccar would still be another assembled truck if DAF hadn't gifted them an engine. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30056-mack-is-the-bulldog-becoming-a-mutt/#findComment-166312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Bein' a mutt ain't so bad when most of the competition is mutts... Navistar is a disaster, Daimler don't get it, and Paccar would still be another assembled truck if DAF hadn't gifted them an engine.I agree with most of your thoughts as well. However I wouldn't word it as such that DAF gifted Paccar an engine. Rather, Paccar brilliantly seized the moment to buy DAF for a very attractive price, and another reason being the package would give Paccar the chance to have their own engine range. What with the Swedes using Volvo engines in Macks, the Germans using Mercedes-Benz engines in Freightliner and Western Star product, and Navistar going with their own license-produced MAN D20 and D26 engines, Paccar realized the trend and made a smart move to enhance itself long-term engine-wise while at the same time making itself the first U.S. truckmaker since Mack Trucks in the 1970s to become a genuine global player.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30056-mack-is-the-bulldog-becoming-a-mutt/#findComment-166369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg1 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I agree. Macks arent Macks anymore. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30056-mack-is-the-bulldog-becoming-a-mutt/#findComment-166398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41180 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 no . mack is pushing us to buy mack trans and rears so they want to sell the mack components. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30056-mack-is-the-bulldog-becoming-a-mutt/#findComment-166456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mackdaddy Posted February 21, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2013 I toured the Pete factory in Denton this past fall and the Paccar engine is not selling well. About 9 out of 10 coming down the line had a Cummins in it. Also, they paint everything on the frame, air line, electrical, components including the airbags. I thought the attention to detail and finish product was below average. Pete and KW is just like Volvo and Mack. the new cab is for both trucks and most all frame components now say Paccar on them as they are shared by both trucks. They still make the Pete fuel tanks right on site though!!Here is a picture of my big Pete 390 with the Peterbilt model.......... 6 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30056-mack-is-the-bulldog-becoming-a-mutt/#findComment-166495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCDrum Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 That's awesome mackdaddy. So original. Cheers, Rob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30056-mack-is-the-bulldog-becoming-a-mutt/#findComment-167637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I toured the Pete factory in Denton this past fall and the Paccar engine is not selling well. About 9 out of 10 coming down the line had a Cummins in it. Also, they paint everything on the frame, air line, electrical, components including the airbags. I thought the attention to detail and finish product was below average. Pete and KW is just like Volvo and Mack. the new cab is for both trucks and most all frame components now say Paccar on them as they are shared by both trucks. They still make the Pete fuel tanks right on site though!!Here is a picture of my big Pete 390 with the Peterbilt model..........I toured Denton last fall and was terribly impressed. Their cab painting system is state-of-the-art. I was pleased to see a U.S. truck plant that is so efficient. I noted a 50/50 mix of MX13s and Cummins power. The DAF-sourced MX13 will gain acceptance over time.I don't care at all for the frontal appearance of the new Peterbilt 579 and the Kenworth T680. I don't mind the new cab, which was due. But personally, I feel the front ends with the droopy nose syndrome looks terrible. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30056-mack-is-the-bulldog-becoming-a-mutt/#findComment-167644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stacksuperdog Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 What happened to the good old American R-series? 1 Quote Matt Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30056-mack-is-the-bulldog-becoming-a-mutt/#findComment-167646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mackdaddy Posted February 25, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2013 I toured Denton last fall and was terribly impressed. Their cab painting system is state-of-the-art. I was pleased to see a U.S. truck plant that is so efficient. I noted a 50/50 mix of MX13s and Cummins power. The DAF-sourced MX13 will gain acceptance over time.I don't care at all for the frontal appearance of the new Peterbilt 579 and the Kenworth T680. I don't mind the new cab, which was due. But personally, I feel the front ends with the droopy nose syndrome looks terrible.I will call bullshit on that. there is no way the facts support that half the Pete's are using the MX13!!! Nothing like a non union promise the moon operation like the Denton plant is. To think that Mack (okay for you Volvo) pays damn near twice in wage and benefits as Peterbilt does and is damn near keeping up with them in sales. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30056-mack-is-the-bulldog-becoming-a-mutt/#findComment-167672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
41180 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 yeah i agree most petes and kw's i see are cummins powered even the smaller ones have the isx 12 instead of the mx. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30056-mack-is-the-bulldog-becoming-a-mutt/#findComment-167858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK Trucking Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 As long as it doesn't have a POS automatic transmission in it.............. 2 Quote "If You Can't Shift It Smoothly, You Shouldn't Be Driving It" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30056-mack-is-the-bulldog-becoming-a-mutt/#findComment-167862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vision386 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 I toured the Pete factory in Denton this past fall and the Paccar engine is not selling well. About 9 out of 10 coming down the line had a Cummins in it. Also, they paint everything on the frame, air line, electrical, components including the airbags. I thought the attention to detail and finish product was below average. Pete and KW is just like Volvo and Mack. the new cab is for both trucks and most all frame components now say Paccar on them as they are shared by both trucks. They still make the Pete fuel tanks right on site though!!Here is a picture of my big Pete 390 with the Peterbilt model..........Only gonna say this ONCE,even if it is a peterbilt,thats a damn "truckly" looking truck right there!.......................................Mark Quote Mack Truck literate. Computer illiterate. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30056-mack-is-the-bulldog-becoming-a-mutt/#findComment-167904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Only gonna say this ONCE,even if it is a peterbilt,thats a damn "truckly" looking truck right there!.......................................MarkWhat truck? 1 Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30056-mack-is-the-bulldog-becoming-a-mutt/#findComment-167980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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