Truck#1 Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 I don't get much braking with moderate pedal pressure but then all of a sudden they grab like a S.O.B. (almost puts me through the windshield). It's the same with or without trailer. What should I look at??? The brake valve assembly on the firewall? I'm just guessing since I don't know. Thanks for your help guys. Rob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/3030-jerky-brakes/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 the foot valve would be my 1st guess Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/3030-jerky-brakes/#findComment-14815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CF686F1292 Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Are any of the axles locking up? Could be treadle valve or a sticking relay valve to either drives or steer,the crack pressure is off,and you get a sudden burst when it does.,overtightened slacks can do this also to close to drum and when you push a tad harder it'll lck up. Also is this an ABS system or standard system or an old unit with the i beleive is the 1121 system.(never can remember the number,the early 70's antilock system). Quote James Spurlock Palmyra,Pa Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/3030-jerky-brakes/#findComment-14820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 If you hear a rush of air then they lock up, it is the footvalve, just changed one on the R model i am driving. I have seen it before, always have been the footvalve. terry Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/3030-jerky-brakes/#findComment-14825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK Trucking Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 If you hear a rush of air then they lock up, it is the footvalve,Amen.Been there, Fixed that. Quote "If You Can't Shift It Smoothly, You Shouldn't Be Driving It" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/3030-jerky-brakes/#findComment-14827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Amen.Been there, Fixed that.Test or guess did you get that, test or guess that me you are trying on parts and hpeing but nyou need to connect a 100 psi air gage to the application line going to the relay vavle on the rear and to the front axle and check the press from the foot vavle as you posh the foot vavle pedtal down and it should be smooth as the pressure goes up.if it is ok then check the pressure to the chambers from the relay vavle at each axle and it should be smooth as you raise the foot petdal pressure and if it has a bob tail vavle in the rear relay then you will be limited untill you release the triler brakes. the antiskid or abs system will not make this problem. Late model get the blame for too many thins and the system will not cause that problem but a abs modulaion vavle that is bad can be deffective which does the same thing as the relay for the older trucks. glenn Quote glenn akers Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/3030-jerky-brakes/#findComment-14847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truck#1 Posted November 3, 2007 Author Share Posted November 3, 2007 The wheels aren't locking up and it is an abs system. No rush of air either. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/3030-jerky-brakes/#findComment-14852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truck#1 Posted November 8, 2007 Author Share Posted November 8, 2007 Excuse my ignorance. Is the foot valve behind the firewall ( on a CH) that has a half dozen or so air lines connected to it??? If that is it...what does a replacement cost and how hard is it to replace??? thanks. rob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/3030-jerky-brakes/#findComment-14952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK Trucking Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Excuse my ignorance. Is the foot valve behind the firewall ( on a CH) that has a half dozen or so air lines connected to it??? If that is it...what does a replacement cost and how hard is it to replace??? thanks. robYes, It's on the engine side of the firewall on a CH, no it's not hard to replace, but just make damn sure you put all the air lines back on exactly as they were. Quote "If You Can't Shift It Smoothly, You Shouldn't Be Driving It" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/3030-jerky-brakes/#findComment-14957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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