rsb502 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Ok heres one I have never done and need help learning, I need to get my 44k axles to go into some chunks from a 38k cutoff and have heard you just swap the spiders. So my question, what do I need to change the spiders and is there anything speial needed or is it basic tools? I may drop them off to be rebuilt and havent decided if I should just get new parts put in them to fit my truk or if I will take mine down and use two to make one. HELP! Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30326-swapping-spiders/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb502 Posted March 9, 2013 Author Share Posted March 9, 2013 Wow nobody, well I guess Ill wing it. Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30326-swapping-spiders/#findComment-170963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifth wheel Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Change nothing.FW Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30326-swapping-spiders/#findComment-171057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Are 44k spiders different than 34k? I thought all the spider did was hold the brake shoe and air brake stuff. .? If your changing hubs say from Spoke to budd. I think all you need is to swap the hub, bearings,nut, lock nut, from one axel to the next.. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30326-swapping-spiders/#findComment-171086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifth wheel Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 If you had to change anything it would be the side gears. 44's and 38's same spline not sure on 34's my guess there they are the same also. The side gears run with the spider gears, and the brake spider is on the spindle and supports the brake shoes and cam.FW Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30326-swapping-spiders/#findComment-171103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb502 Posted March 10, 2013 Author Share Posted March 10, 2013 Im not getting into the brakes Im just swapping the carriers but I was always told the axle splines were different from 34-38 to 44k rears, I have the two piece 6 bolt axles and the rears with the 3.65's have the one piece 8 bolt axle. I guess Ill have to get em apart and see if they are the same or not, if not I guess its the side gears I would need to swap then I heard them called the spiders, as I said I havent ever been into this before. Im hoping fifth wheel is right thatll make it super easy and that makes me super happy. Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30326-swapping-spiders/#findComment-171164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb502 Posted March 10, 2013 Author Share Posted March 10, 2013 Of course I bet I have a heavier driveline (double frame, E9, heavy spec) so Ill have to swap the yoke on the front axle and if I use my center shaft those two also. Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30326-swapping-spiders/#findComment-171165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK Trucking Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 The side gear splines on 34, 38, & 44K Mack carriers are the same. They all use CRDP92 & CRD93 carriers. Quote "If You Can't Shift It Smoothly, You Shouldn't Be Driving It" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30326-swapping-spiders/#findComment-171257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb502 Posted March 11, 2013 Author Share Posted March 11, 2013 10-4 that makes it a little easier then don't it! Ha now all I have to do is check the bearings, gear lash and yokes (swap yokes for my 1810 then I might be in bidness. Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/30326-swapping-spiders/#findComment-171313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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